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    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Authority should always be questioned and not blindly followed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Authority should always be questioned and not blindly followed.
    Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.

    That is the problem with cheaters and rule breakers now many want all the benefits with none of the risks. Then try to deny it up and down instead of just owning up to it.

    I say this as a filthy cheater in many games. OP is right we lose all rights to being a victim once we willfully break the rules.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 05-18-2022 at 11:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.
    Maybe in an authoritarian state? But this is a fucking video game we pay a subscription for lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    Maybe in an authoritarian state? But this is a fucking video game we pay a subscription for lmfao
    paying a subscription does not give you the right to break the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    paying a subscription does not give you the right to break the rules.
    Yes but it means that I should be able to criticize it without random casuals trying to control how I enjoy my content with their irrelevant opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.
    absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

    take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
    everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
    they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

    take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
    everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
    they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways
    Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

    I just do not get why the intent matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

    I just do not get why the intent matters.
    should we ban everyone who floats anything in housing then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Authority should always be questioned and not blindly followed.
    To what end? Create change or just be an anarchist? We're talking about rules...not a government.

    Rules are a part of life. You break them and there's consequences. End of story. Been that way since forever....
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    "Wherever you go, there you are." ~ Buckaroo Bonzai

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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    To what end? Create change or just be an anarchist? We're talking about rules...not a government.

    Rules are a part of life. You break them and there's consequences. End of story. Been that way since forever....
    Sorry, we didn't know these rules were inscribed in stone.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    3 copies of every episode of The Big Bang Theory ever made
    Now THIS should be a bannable offense.
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    Last edited by YukiB; 05-18-2022 at 11:36 PM.

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