If you don't like being target for violating TOS...how about don't violate the TOS?

[KageTokage]

I'm honestly the kind of person who wants people to tell me I'm trash if I'm genuinely underperforming and not just failing to meet some arbitrary standard that is not actually necessary for the content in question.

I've seen so many PF groups where people are either leaving or getting kicked due to "not enough DPS" despite the group having been a few percent ahead of the check well into the fight.

[SwingLifeAway]

I'm honestly the kind of person who wants people to tell me I'm trash if I'm genuinely underperforming

welp too bad nobody ever will because they're too afraid they will get banned

[Darksummoner]

Hilarious, saying I am "mentally ill" for not showing my FFLogs. It's actually quite disgusting and a totally inappropriate accusation when there are folks really struggling with mental illness. As these responses show, too many of you treat this GAME like it is a professional job. So maybe it is you all who need help? It truly is sad how your lives revolve around DPS numbers and high-end content like you're getting paid for it.

Mental refers to your ability to function under pressure, and to keep your emotions under control. Tackling something like Ultimate or Savage content takes strong mental, because you have to be able to deal with being wiped or wiping the party 10-17 minutes into a complex fight, without letting it tilt you and affect subsequent pulls.

Someone like you, who can't discuss the concept of visible DPS numbers without emotionally flying off the handle, just doesn't fit into that kind of environment. People tend to want rational and mature players. No one wants to deal with someone who holds the group back, but is too volatile to approach about the problem. People don't even want to deal with that type of player in casual content either.

You indirectly are confessing that you use third party tools.

I'm honestly the kind of person who wants people to tell me I'm trash if I'm genuinely underperforming and not just failing to meet some arbitrary standard that is not actually necessary for the content in question.

I've seen so many PF groups where people are either leaving or getting kicked due to "not enough DPS" despite the group having been a few percent ahead of the check well into the fight.

If you are in a static group, then yes the raid Lead(s) should tell you so that you can try and fix the issues you may have. Not being mean at all. but a serious raid group does not want weak links or people looking to be carried. Again not being mean. Just a little tip from someone who raided for 17 years in WoW. I highly doubt the rules are much different here in FFXIV...well for savages and ultimates that is.

[Shurrikhan]

I'm honestly the kind of person who wants people to tell me I'm trash if I'm genuinely underperforming and not just failing to meet some arbitrary standard that is not actually necessary for the content in question.

I've seen so many PF groups where people are either leaving or getting kicked due to "not enough DPS" despite the group having been a few percent ahead of the check well into the fight.

I've benefited so much from this on WoW, tbh, especially when returning to a particular spec after a long break. Granted, I already have my own parser there, so it's not that I don't know I'm underperforming, but sometimes guides are no substitute for experience and more tailored advice can be really helpful. It isn't something I'd feel comfortable asking my party members for, typically, unless it's a particular casual run and banter/sidechat is already going, but if they were willing, I would always graciously accept.

When I was first taking Sub Rogue into Challenge Mode Dungeons back in WoD, for instance, and hadn't played it in mechanically demanding content since WotLK, I'd have people call me out for, say, overly swapping back and forth to provide backup on certain mechanics instead of just trusting the others to do it, or in trying too hard to Rupture spread in multi-boss fights, not sufficiently banking Shadowdance for when we could most exploit its damage, etc. Luckily, some of those times, my party members had also played Sub or at least could see what was happening by the second wipe or so, and were willing to give those pointers rather than shying away from informing me as to how and when I was messing up.

It was some serious culture shock going from a place where advice, even if unsolicited, is typically taken and at most politely declined to one where it's often considered innately harassment.

[AngelCheese77]

Ties into why it's such a red flag about someone's mental. Being super paranoid about ones logs, and especially feeling motivated to rant on external platforms about how hypothetical people might use those logs, is anxiety-driven, irrational behavior.

Hold the f-on. Are you being serious? You are equating a mental disorder to ppl who hide their fflogs????

Holy crap.

I hide mine because of harassment. I’m not playing FF14 for big deepz. I do it for fun. I don’t ask some rando raider to spam me with tells saying how shit my RDM is. I already know

[LittleImp]

Hold the f-on. Are you being serious? You are equating a mental disorder to ppl who hide their fflogs????

Holy crap.

I hide mine because of harassment. I’m not playing FF14 for big deepz. I do it for fun. I don’t ask some rando raider to spam me with tells saying how shit my RDM is. I already know

Mental refers to your ability to function under pressure, and to keep your emotions under control. Tackling something like Ultimate or Savage content takes strong mental, because you have to be able to deal with being wiped or wiping the party 10-17 minutes into a complex fight, without letting it tilt you and affect subsequent pulls.

Someone like you, who can't discuss the concept of visible DPS numbers without emotionally flying off the handle, just doesn't fit into that kind of environment. People tend to want rational and mature players. No one wants to deal with someone who holds the group back, but is too volatile to approach about the problem. People don't even want to deal with that type of player in casual content either.

Your life will be a lot less stressful if you put 5 seconds of effort into actually understanding what you are reading, instead of kneejerking and immediately getting mad because you are ignorant to terminology.

[iluke77]

put simply for every good mod or addon made there is 100 that are used to exploit the game thats what they want to stop ..

To go as far a anti cheat or blanket banning everyone using them i guess they have chosen the if we dont see it or its not reported we dont care ...

but if your literally promoting them on streams !!.. well what do you expect !!

There was talk years and years ago where yoshi-p had stated he may think about developed addons for the game .. i guess he took the middle road and felt they would cause more trouble than good and choose not to pursue unless they were caught /reported using them !!

im not sure if anyone remember at the start of ARR there was all this dirty gil being injected though rmt and exploits the devs stepped and just started ripping millions of gill off players left right and centre .. and WOW the community was pissed not sure their going to take the chance of banning everyone using addons regardless of them being " simple addons " or "exploiting mods "


@ YukiB .. because of limit have you ever seen the gathering mod its been around since ARR was first released and the duplicate character mod ..

they tele port to each node to gather faster in the same area ..

not sure what the duplicate character mod is for prob the same thing but that is a thing and has been around for years and years , now and then i would see like 20 30 characters all clipping in each other with the same name in uldah

and im also 100% sure there is more and much more that do harm to the game and community than do good !

i dont use any addons i dont see any point to them and i really dont think there needed !

[YukiB]

put simply for every good mod or addon made there is 100 that are used to exploit the game thats what they want to stop ..

You got a source for that claim?

[DarkPursuer]

put simply for every good mod or addon made there is 100 that are used to exploit the game thats what they want to stop ..

No no no you got it completely backwards.

For every mod or addon used to exploit the game, there's at least 100 more created to give your character a fat pair of honka donka boinky doinkies.

[LisSquid]

No no no you got it completely backwards.

For every mod or addon used to exploit the game, there's at least 100 more created to give your character a fat pair of honka donka boinky doinkies.