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    If you don't like being target for violating TOS...how about don't violate the TOS?

    I believe FFXIV is very clear where it stands on mods and 3rd party apps. Every six months or so they reiterate their stance which seems to send those openly/discreetly violating the TOS into an uproar. They begin to act like victims (most likely from guilt) and begin to defend violating TOS with their 3rd party apps under the excuses of that high-end raids are designed for them to be used (they aren't) and that what they do doesn't hurt anyone (true but it is still violating TOS).

    End of the day, violate TOS, people have every right to report you and you have every right to be banned. Claiming victim now and that you are targeted by toxic casuals when you're the ones streaming with these add-ons openly is a YOU problem, not the folks reporting you problem and I think it goes to show how these add ons DO breed toxicity.

    You don't think for a second if they added a parser for DPS people wouldn't gatekeep all content with it? "Oh, well we have FFlogs." Very easy to block and filter yourself out and no that doesn't automatically mean DPS shame. It means, my DPS and how I play is absolutely NONE of your business.

    So, continue playing victim. Continue crying into the void. End of the day, those using 3rd party apps and mods that violate TOS are simply doing that...violating TOS...and you truly have no one to blame but yourselves if consequences are handed down.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Counterpoint- victimless crimes are nonsense, and the TOS enshrining them is equally nonsense, and baying for blood and punishment regarding victimless crimes is the most Gladys Kravitz nosy old lady neighbor behavior I can think of.
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    Thanks for this unique view it's a first and hasn't been posted 100 times in the last week alone.
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    R.I.P samurai main 2022 - REAPER TIME!

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    Or at least don't showcase/stream your violations to the whole world.
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    Bring back the troll threads already, tired of people yapping about mods and TOS and yadda yadda yadda.
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    Some people think the TOS is bad and would like it revised.

    The thread title has "If you don't want to break the law, then don't smoke pot" energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forsakee View Post
    Thanks for this unique view it's a first and hasn't been posted 100 times in the last week alone.
    You're so welcome! Be blessed
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I believe FFXIV is very clear where it stands on mods and 3rd party apps. Every six months or so they reiterate their stance which seems to send those openly/discreetly violating the TOS into an uproar. They begin to act like victims (most likely from guilt) and begin to defend violating TOS with their 3rd party apps under the excuses of that high-end raids are designed for them to be used (they aren't) and that what they do doesn't hurt anyone (true but it is still violating TOS).
    (Added emphasis)

    So what's the problem with that kind of ToS violation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukiB View Post
    Some people think the TOS is bad and would like it revised.

    The thread title has "If you don't want to break the law, then don't smoke pot" energy.
    Except that people who smoke pot, in a country where it is illegal, usually don't stream and broadcast their crimes lol.
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