They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[Yeastyloins]

I'm sure you can. But none of the Console Players seem to be joining the "we want a Parser" side of the conversation. As they likely do not care for it. They do "Well Enough"

And yes, I put it in quotations because I know that "well enough" is becoming a point of contention.

At the end of the day, if you're winning fights, does it matter?

Not really but console players that are still looking up class guides and other information that is ultimately informed to a degree by information gathered by FFlogs. Again, I'd like more if they modify the combat log so you could just upload that. Many people have ACT so they can live log to get more detailed information, including healing, mitigation, and damage taken information.

[Yeastyloins]

Your logic is just as anecdotal.

Good, I see you understand how discorse works when there is not actual metric data displaying these kinds of things. The sky is also blue but is sometimes other colors too.

[VelKallor]

Don't need to since I've been playing it for years and have never heard that as being a reason people quit. But you can just ask them yourself and find out :P

Im sure that there are many things you havent heard or seen. Doesnt mean they didnt happen. Doesnt mean they arent true. Just means your experiences and mine are different..then again, maybe you've never asked a guild full of people in voice what their vanilla experiences were like, then just shut up and listened.

I did. Maybe you should as well. Ask them.

Ive seen a lot and heard a lot you never have...doesnt mean none of it happened, does it?

[Hoodcat]

But the problem is with that, is the level you need the meter is already doing this. its been doing it for years, its already happening =p

[Yeastyloins]

Your logic is just as anecdotal.

Right, because there isn't literal metric data polling wow plays on why they left with a validated test with a measure and defined factor structure. Good job understanding basic human interaction.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Thank you for providing me prime entertainment while maintenance is happening with your historically terrible takes that you have made with no grounds in reality or evidence. You then try to take the high road and call this entire forum academic when you realize you're wrong, have been called out for lying, and providing fake evidence on a matter that you do not understand. While everyone is entitled to their opinions, you have basically discredited yourself and any credibility that your opinions held by belligerently insisting you have evidence on toxicity in the game caused by parsing and DPS meters, but then backing off when questioned on it. Before you come and try to make arguments on topics you don't fully understand, please learn more about what you're arguing about. Please understand this is not me trying demean you on a personal level but you are attempting to mislead people on what the high end community is like. It is obvious that throughout this forum you have lied a multitude of times to back your argument. Please stop bringing up points of he said she said and other hearsay to make it seem like the issue is bigger than it is. The casual side of the community are the ones mass reporting people, not the high end raiders. Please, check yourself.

I may want to use your reply here as my sig sometime soon…

[Dracosavarian]

Good, I see you understand how discorse works when there is not actual metric data displaying these kinds of things. The sky is also blue but is sometimes other colors too.

My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not. That does not discount, nor disarm their argument nor their reasoning that was cited. Their life experiences are not your own. Nor do my own experiences, match up with what you state your own to be. To bring forth a portrayal that your own experiences trump that of others, and is some unyielding truth, is disingenuous, at best.

We agree to disagree.

Take care, and Be Well.

[VelKallor]

Using a personal attack on another player as your forum sig might not be a good idea.

[Yeastyloins]

Right but that just says your sample is not sufficient in order to index and assess a population, which mine very well be. I'm just saying that the current wow forums aren't filled with talks about DPS meters. More about quitting the game because Ion thinks it's a meaningful choice to hate yourself for RNG loot.

[VelKallor]

My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not. That does not discount, nor disarm their argument nor their reasoning that was cited. Their life experiences are not your own. Nor do my own experiences, match up with what you state your own to be. To bring forth a portrayal that your own experiences trump that of others, and is some unyielding truth, is disingenuous, at best.

We agree to disagree.

Take care, and Be Well.

Draco, each is entitled to their opinion. Wont have it any other way. But telling me that they havent seen or heard what I have, and then saying therefore it didnt happen is...disingenuous

And kinda silly. tbh.