Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
In both the Arthars case and in this one, the suspension was enacted PRECISELY because they were streaming FF 14 content with addons visible. They were PUBLICALLY broadcasting a stream with addons they KNEW were not allowed.

Arthars was streaming from a VERIFIED Twitch channel.

Let me restate: they were streaming FF 14 raid content on a public channel whilst they were using addons and meters they KNEW they were not allowed to use. They were reported for that and rightly so. You may not like it, but they broke TOS and did so in front of thousands of viewers.

Im sorry they got suspended, but thats on them and no one else.
Ah, the Motte and Bailey switch I knew was coming next.

So where's the problem? Rules exist for a reason. In theory, at least. Good rules should be written with attention paid to their foundational reasoning. Why are parsers against the TOS? I've heard over and over and over and over and over and over again that it's the harassment potential.

And the moment we point at a prominent example where the *stated reason* behind that rule wasn't in play at all, said rule was enforced anyway. So what is the takeaway from this? It's certainly not "harassment is bad". It's "third party tools are punishable if 5chan gets mad about it".

Claiming it's about harassment potential, then when confronted with the fact that public, visible enforcement has nothing whatsoever to do with harassment fleeing to the Motte of "who cares it's against the rules either way SO THERE" is a boring trick. Save it for the tourists. Your beef isn't with harassment, it's with the existence of facts. Stats. Math.