They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[Gothicshark]

An officially supported damage meter should be added, ...Virtually nobody would quit because a damage meter was added ...

1: NO
2: I a lot of us would quite.

[Sebazy]

1: NO
2: I a lot of us would quite.

Any reason behind your firm opinion on this one? Assuming SE keep a zero tolerance against any cases of people harassing over parser numbers, what's driving your stance?

[Elesh]

1: NO
2: I a lot of us would quite.

Would you still quit if the damage meter was something that had to be enabled in the UI and was only personal? (ie. I could only see myself and you could only see yourself)

If so, can you please explain your reasoning?

[EagleDynamics]

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i second having a damage meter that can be hidden from other players. it makes perfect sense to give players the option to switch it on or off.

[EagleDynamics]

1: NO
2: I a lot of us would quite.

theres no way you would quit. im calling that bluff right now.

[Klytania]

1: NO
2: I a lot of us would quite.

Nah. You're too invested in it.

[SieyaM]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

[Klytania]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

It's not hard to figure out if your damage is lower than expected you probably aren't hitting enough buttons or preparing combos properly. Not sure what tutorial you would need for that. The combat in this game isn't hard to figure out.

[SwingLifeAway]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

OK? This is not really a point?

Showing the player that they're not performing well is already more feedback than the game gives in the first place, that is the crux of the problem

[Gothicshark]

Any reason behind your firm opinion on this one? Assuming SE keep a zero tolerance against any cases of people harassing over parser numbers, what's driving your stance?

theres no way you would quit. im calling that bluff right now.

Nah. You're too invested in it.

December 2004 to October 13th 2020. Never looking back.

I had 20 max level Characters (both factions), I had 5 Max Geared Raiding Characters, to include my Main a Blue Side Warlock which I had as a main since May 2005. I played 40+ hours a week before I retired, and 70-80 hours a week after I retired. I only quit twice, once for 5 months near the End of Panda Land in protest over a flying announcement (When I first came to FFXIV), and the day of Shadowland Prepatch, as I refused to go back to level 50.

I deleted my account when their misogynistic history came out.

I am sick and tired of toxic WOW mentalities and Damage Meters, because I lived 18 years of my adult life dealing with them.

Would you still quit if the damage meter was something that had to be enabled in the UI and was only personal? (ie. I could only see myself and you could only see yourself)

If so, can you please explain your reasoning?

Because people will always find a way to make an addon/app to detect the information, and there will always be a group of people who use that info to determine weather or not a person should be allowed into a group. Sure, they might not say things in public, but in private spaces, and on Discord, the information will be used to judge people, and no matter how good intentioned, it will always be used for ill. If Yoshi-P allows for even a personal meter, that is allowing for that information to become necessary for raiding. The only way that is acceptable, is if they added a personal solo challenge that gave out you numbers at the end. This way, it would be personal, and would be usable as a self improvement tool, and not a test of ability.