They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[SieyaM]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

[Klytania]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

It's not hard to figure out if your damage is lower than expected you probably aren't hitting enough buttons or preparing combos properly. Not sure what tutorial you would need for that. The combat in this game isn't hard to figure out.

[SieyaM]

It's not hard to figure out if your damage is lower than expected you probably aren't hitting enough buttons or preparing combos properly. Not sure what tutorial you would need for that. The combat in this game isn't hard to figure out.

Ok, so if it is so easy to figure out then why do we need the damage meters? People should be able to read their tool tops and figure out how to use their skills.

[SwingLifeAway]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

OK? This is not really a point?

Showing the player that they're not performing well is already more feedback than the game gives in the first place, that is the crux of the problem

[Shurrikhan]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

Yet you can try different things and observe: Over repeated tests, did the numbers go up?

Not to mention that the most immediate per-second meter itself is only a small part of the available system. Take WoW's typical parsers as example.

• Want to track when and for how long you dropped a buff via a timeline and event chart? You can do that.
• Want to compare your action timeline against another of your own logs, or perhaps even compare each against their respective throughputs? You can do that.
• Want to find the most salient points of difference between how you played and a fellow player in your party of the same spec played? You can do that, too.

They have rather immense potential as learning tools.

[Rolder50]

Yet you can try different things and observe: Over repeated tests, did the numbers go up?

Not to mention that the most immediate per-second meter itself is only a small part of the available system. Take WoW's typical parsers as example.

• Want to track when and for how long you dropped a buff via a timeline and event chart? You can do that.
• Want to compare your action timeline against another of your own logs, or perhaps even compare each against their respective throughputs? You can do that.
• Want to find the most salient points of difference between how you played and a fellow player in your party of the same spec played? You can do that, too.

They have rather immense potential as learning tools.

Fun fact, you can do this with FF14 parsers as well, you just have to upload the log to a website and it can chart all this out.

[Shurrikhan]

Fun fact, you can do this with FF14 parsers as well, you just have to upload the log to a website and it can chart all this out.

Aye, I just like Detail's convenience for being able to do that in-game, no upload necessary. (Though, one would still need the upload for, say, running a 2D replay of the fight, as offered on Warcraftlogs, or for running their quick analyses, so it's still plenty worth uploading from time to time there.)

[Yeastyloins]

DPS meters alone do not improve player performance, since they do nothing to explain why a player may not be performing well. All they do is simply show damage output, it would be up to the other players, or in game tutorials, to help players improve and given the history of this community I really doubt that would happen.

This is why I don't care so much for an in game meter UNLESS they modified the combat log so you could upload it to FFlogs instead of the logs created via ACT.