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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    I seriously don't get why people think this when high-end statics already filter with FFLogs lol?? A lot of players also kick you from weeklies if your logs look shit. This has been a thing since early Stormblood, if not late Heavensward (when they introduced cross-world PF).

    It's not like you're preventing anything when it's already in FF14.
    They can prevent wide-spread bullying by blocking any demands for parse logs being added in game. it's literally that simple.



    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    I'm personally against a damage meter not because of toxicity (shit argument), but because all it does is push players into approaching encounters in a highly one-dimensional way, which is exactly why Savage fights are such a snoozefest these days because it's designed EXACTLY to the parameters of the parsebrains. Official damage meters will cause even the casuals to tunnel on DPS and whine and cry whenever they lose more than one GCD of uptime.

    Savage is literally so boring now even during progression because melee uptime is given to you for free. And I'm 100% sure it's designed this way because both NA and JP players care too much about DPS.

    This isn't a toxicity thing, it's a "let's dumb down our game so that only one metric matters" thing.
    If you actually think it's not a toxicity thing, then you're even more Naïve than i thought. You need only look at games like WoW and ESO where parse logs are prevalent to see the amount of toxicity and bullying that it invites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    I'm playing tank this tier and I genuinely feel like my mitigation is completely useless EVEN in Ultimate (DSR), outside of tankbusters. Bosses barely auto, my mit on party members don't mean jackshit because healing can be solved completely with healer oGCDs, etc. My mind is focused on optimizing damage even in Ultimate, on what in literally every other game would be considered a support with utility (tanking, aggro etc.)

    (This is also why I'm having way more fun in Lost Ark compared to literally everything in FF14 below Ultimate because there are a LOT of things that all simultaneously matter: dodging, teamwork, DPS, using battle items, etc.)

    IF they were to implement a damage meter, I want metrics other than DPS to be shown as well, like Lost Ark's MVP screen. Damage mitigated should be a thing on such a meter, along with eHP healed (i.e. HPS adjusted for mitigation and overhealing), mechanics successfully executed (track across a lockout), etc.
    The only reason most of the people asking for parses want logs specifically for DPS. you know darn well that if they added parses without DPS checks, these same people would piss and moan about it because they only want parses so they can gatekeep endgame content and block less skilled players from completing content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    They can prevent wide-spread bullying by blocking any demands for parse logs being added in game. it's literally that simple.





    If you actually think it's not a toxicity thing, then you're even more Naïve than i thought. You need only look at games like WoW and ESO where parse logs are prevalent to see the amount of toxicity and bullying that it invites.



    The only reason most of the people asking for parses want logs specifically for DPS. you know darn well that if they added parses without DPS checks, these same people would piss and moan about it because they only want parses so they can gatekeep endgame content and block less skilled players from completing content.
    Please stop wasting my brain cells.

    You barely even responded to anything I was saying. Which isn't surprising but I wasn't really talking to you beyond the first paragraph anyways.

    90% of your posts are just

    "It is absolutely X." --> proceeds to provide zero logical reasoning why.

    Like:

    "The only reason most of the people asking for parses want logs specifically for DPS. you know darn well that if they added parses without DPS checks, these same people would piss and moan about it because they only want parses so they can gatekeep endgame content and block less skilled players from completing content."

    Ok? How do you know? Zero evidence, zero logical reasoning. Just "you know darn well, trust me bro".

    How do you know most of the people asking for parses want logs specifically for DPS? Where is the evidence for that? Or reasoning why most people would do so?

    And what the hell is a parse without "DPS checks"? Lol?

    Or:

    "They can prevent wide-spread bullying by blocking any demands for parse logs being added in game. it's literally that simple."

    How? Did you not read what everyone is writing?

    Honestly idk why I bother with idiots on this forum.
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    Last edited by Skiros; 05-16-2022 at 11:21 PM.