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    Oopsy's Avatar
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    Oopsy Hiero
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    Malboro
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    Kind of like locking a group based on iL. Should that be removed too?
    ilvl is something you can achieve by completing more tasks.
    DPS is something based of a large number of variables that possible could be affected by luck of the draw... Incase you didn't know Crits are a not guaranteed, some AOE/Boss targeting is random. A player could just be having a bad day... Or maybe a class is a bit unbalanced, Or or or...

    When starting out a group maybe someone really is a little on the bad side... but if you give them a chance they can improve. IF you never give them a chance or hint, well too bad...
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    Samuel Ashford
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    ilvl is something you can achieve by completing more tasks.
    DPS is something based of a large number of variables that possible could be affected by luck of the draw... Incase you didn't know Crits are a not guaranteed, some AOE/Boss targeting is random. A player could just be having a bad day... Or maybe a class is a bit unbalanced, Or or or...

    When starting out a group maybe someone really is a little on the bad side... but if you give them a chance they can improve. IF you never give them a chance or hint, well too bad...
    100% this. the ones crying for ACT don't understand all the bullying that would occur as a direct result of endorsing parses as a measurement for competency in raids/trials. Noooooo thank you. I much prefer having a game where new players can pick up a savage trial and actually learn it, instead of being treated like trash because they havent memorized every single detail of a fight for maximum dps upkeep.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    100% this. the ones crying for ACT don't understand all the bullying that would occur as a direct result of endorsing parses as a measurement for competency in raids/trials. Noooooo thank you. I much prefer having a game where new players can pick up a savage trial and actually learn it, instead of being treated like trash because they havent memorized every single detail of a fight for maximum dps upkeep.
    There is an unbelievably easy fix to this, though. Make it against the rules to ask for DPS numbers or discriminate based on them, ban people who do, boom problem solved. You know, what they already do, and why no one asks for dps numbers from the ALREADY AVAILABLE tools...
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Make it against the rules to ask for DPS numbers or discriminate based on them, ban people who do, boom problem solved.
    If that request is made in discord, how can that rule be enforced. It cant be as theres no proof. All it does is create more grief, and more work for the staff who have god knows enough to deal with as it is.
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    Mother Kos
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If that request is made in discord, how can that rule be enforced. It cant be as theres no proof. All it does is create more grief, and more work for the staff who have god knows enough to deal with as it is.
    But it already does and is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    There is an unbelievably easy fix to this, though. Make it against the rules to ask for DPS numbers or discriminate based on them, ban people who do, boom problem solved. You know, what they already do, and why no one asks for dps numbers from the ALREADY AVAILABLE tools...
    that's not a fix because they'll take recruitment outside the game where they can bully people all day long about their dps parse.
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