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    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    I think if DPS parsing and toxicity were some of the primary reasons that wow's sub numbers were plummeting, Blizz would try to do something about that. But I don't hear much from Blizz's devs about DPS parsing and toxicity.
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    Tell me, though: At what point toxicity over a player failing to do their job to such a degree that the remaining players' gametime over a given piece of group content was improved, despite whatever guilt they may feel, by kicking a particular player turn into "toxicity caused by parsers
    Sooo are you are saying that regardless of what the toxic player actuilly did, the person they were abusing.."deserved it'?

    Under what conditions, pray tell, is it acceptable to literally be foaming at the mouth enraged over a video game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Sooo are you are saying that regardless of what the toxic player actuilly did, the person they were abusing.."deserved it'?

    Under what conditions, pray tell, is it acceptable to literally be foaming at the mouth enraged over a video game?
    No, I'm asking why you're blaming the parser for someone making the run so much harder for their teammates that it was worth the several minutes to replace said player than to just finish the run, or on the rare occasion, people asking someone half-asleep at the wheel in content that'd be made less stressful for everyone else to actually... do what can be reasonably expected of someone who chose to participate in that content.

    This isn't even a matter of "I've a terminal disease and would have been happier had I not known about it." It's just a matter of being informed, in this case, of a gross imbalance in effort put in for rewards earned. As with any other form of information, people can choose to do with that information what they will. That a group may find it easier to replace someone despite the high cost of doing so, or thought it was worth asking that person to do more than half the throughput of their partners in role despite being answerable to the same proddings themselves in the future, says more about that already extant conflict than it does about their having had real information, instead of mere guesswork or their own myopic finger-pointing, to go off of.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-19-2022 at 02:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    No, I'm asking why you're blaming the parser for someone making the run so much harder for their teammates that it was worth the several minutes to replace said player than to just finish the run.
    enabler
    [ɪˈneɪblə, ɛˈneɪblə]
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    a person or thing that makes something possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    enabler
    [ɪˈneɪblə, ɛˈneɪblə]
    NOUN
    a person or thing that makes something possible
    But, again, did the parser enable that?

    It took some serious stress to one's team back in TBC for them to go to the trouble of exiting, shouting, inviting, summoning, and reentering to replace you. It seems unlikely that a parser would uniquely enable a group to (want to) kick someone stressing out their team to that degree.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-19-2022 at 03:28 PM.

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    should just do away with chat then, that enables em to bully people yeah?
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    If you want to see a similar conversation at Lost Ark forum, the mods responded and are more forward about the game's stance on dps meter:

    "In terms of our rules, any app that modifies the game and/or interacts with it in a way that provides information that is otherwise not available to players is not approved"

    Lost Ark forum: Hints for Damage meter
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    If you want to see a similar conversation at Lost Ark forum, the mods responded and are more forward about the game's stance on dps meter:

    "In terms of our rules, any app that modifies the game and/or interacts with it in a way that provides information that is otherwise not available to players is not approved"

    Lost Ark forum: Hints for Damage meter
    .......ok?
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    Lost ark also at the end of scenarios publishes % overall dmg. MVP's ect That can also be used as a tool to play better,
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    Literally just ignore VelKallor
    They and their opinions are entirely irrelevant in this conversation
    They just post emotional and nonsensical garbage to derail threads until their post count is done for the day and then log off
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