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    Jason_Ashford's Avatar
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    Samuel Ashford
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    Malboro
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    ilvl is something you can achieve by completing more tasks.
    DPS is something based of a large number of variables that possible could be affected by luck of the draw... Incase you didn't know Crits are a not guaranteed, some AOE/Boss targeting is random. A player could just be having a bad day... Or maybe a class is a bit unbalanced, Or or or...

    When starting out a group maybe someone really is a little on the bad side... but if you give them a chance they can improve. IF you never give them a chance or hint, well too bad...
    100% this. the ones crying for ACT don't understand all the bullying that would occur as a direct result of endorsing parses as a measurement for competency in raids/trials. Noooooo thank you. I much prefer having a game where new players can pick up a savage trial and actually learn it, instead of being treated like trash because they havent memorized every single detail of a fight for maximum dps upkeep.
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    Kind of like locking a group based on iL. Should that be removed too?
    Actually, yeah that would be a good idea. Too many people abuse it and put requirements that are way higher than they need to be. You don't need 590+ ilvl to farm Zodiark EX, people were farming it comfortably before that level of gear was even out.
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    Oopsy Hiero
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    Fisher Lv 100
    So you want to fire Yoshi-P?
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    Klytania Moanmoore
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    So you want to fire Yoshi-P?
    That's exactly what I said. You are very smart.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    So you want to fire Yoshi-P?
    It's almost like Yoshi-P has never changed his mind or been proved irrefutably incorrect on multiple occasions. He's still a human, and humans make mistakes. It's hardly the end of the world.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Behemoth
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I've seen what happens when this sort of thing is allowed. So I don't agree.

    But why, if it would only show your DPS?

    Because people will start demanding that you link your DPS to join a group. For veteran players like me "it doesn't matter". for new players who are just starting to learn "no group for you buddy. Play with the other rejects".
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    Last edited by Adamantini; 05-16-2022 at 11:56 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Klytania Moanmoore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    I've seen what happens when this sort of thing is allowed. So I don't agree.

    why would it only show your DPS?

    Because people will start demanding that you link your DPS to join a group. For veteran players like me "it doesn't matter". for new players who are just starting to learn "no group for you buddy. Play with the other rejects".
    Maybe we should hide gear score too? Disable the ability to lock party finder by iL. God forbid we quantify how much damage a team does.
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    Maybe we should hide gear score too? Disable the ability to lock party finder by iL. God forbid we quantify how much damage a team does.
    thanks for proving my point.

    If today there is already this type of "restriction made by players", imagine with a DPS counter =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Kismet Altius
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    Louisoix
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I can see it being used in statics. A lot of statics host try-outs anyway and can normally tell if someone is underperforming. If however you're talking about a random in PF demanding your logs, just report them lol.
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