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    Tale of Emet [FF14 x Nier Reincarnation event story]

    A rather interesting FF14 lore video showing Emet's entire journey and view during his time before establishing Garlemald from the new Nier Reincarnation event for FF14. We can even see how Emet see the souls of those fragmented through his soul color seeing powers in one of the images.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0U_aTv0EI

    So what do you think about this lore summary of Emet's life?
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    Omg this part where he's walking past them:

    "Unnngh...Aaah..."

    Pitiful moaning of malformed creatures...

    They can no longer shape words.
    Language, culture, knowledge--forgotten....


    Decades... Centuries... Millennia pass.

    As he works tirelessly,
    the wretched creatures begin to learn.



    Just makes me feel even worse. And the fact that he had to watch all of that for so long, from them not even being able to form words to learning how to do the most basic things...just terrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo View Post
    Omg this part where he's walking past them:

    "Unnngh...Aaah..."

    Pitiful moaning of malformed creatures...

    They can no longer shape words.
    Language, culture, knowledge--forgotten....


    Decades... Centuries... Millennia pass.

    As he works tirelessly,
    the wretched creatures begin to learn.



    Just makes me feel even worse. And the fact that he had to watch all of that for so long, from them not even being able to form words to learning how to do the most basic things...just terrifying.
    ya and this part of the lore video reveals the critical lore that it was Emet that taught the current races to speak. He even went far as to educate them with other things as well which eventually lead to learning and making their own languages, history, religion, and etc.

    Considering Emet was the only one willing to give the sunder souls a chance, this speaks alot about how much he literally affected and created the current world of FF14 and the Shards. The other members of the Ascians were not even interested in attempting to interact with the sundered and only focused on rejoining the world.
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    Yes and this part:

    Back curled under exhaustion.
    Sigh harmonic to a heavy countenance.

    Before him stands a cluster of miscreants.

    Gaze shrewd enough to pierce the spirit,
    the man spots a familiar hue...

    The precise color of an old friend's soul.
    A broken relic of paradise.

    But he has already passed an eternity
    with hope and grief.


    He has watched them die. Forgotten them.

    Now, he simply does what can be done.

    Grasping the last wisp of a dream
    that stubbornly fails to fade.

    A long player in this tale of the star--
    his monologue an elegy.

    Sounds like it's saying all these millenia have passed and this is the first time he saw this familiar hue? If so that's even more tragic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    ya and this part of the lore video reveals the critical lore that it was Emet that taught the current races to speak. He even went far as to educate them with other things as well which eventually lead to learning and making their own languages, history, religion, and etc.
    Was this said in one of the weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Was this said in one of the weapons?
    The dialogue after the line OhNooo quote will mention this...

    " Decades... Centuries... Millennia pass.

    He works tirelessly.
    the wretched creatures begin to learn.

    They speak in new tongues.
    They worship new gods.
    They forge new histories."
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    The dialogue after the line OhNooo quote will mention this...

    " Decades... Centuries... Millennia pass.

    He works tirelessly.
    the wretched creatures begin to learn.

    They speak in new tongues.
    They worship new gods.
    They forge new histories."
    I don’t think it’s saying he taught them then, the work was restoring the Ancients not teaching the broken remnants. If anything it sounds like he was disgusted that they’d move on, that they’d learn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Nope! The weapon story about Emet is this one:



    No indication that he taught anybody anything.
    Ah thank ya thank ya for the reference! That forge ahead at the end though, I see you Ishikawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Was this said in one of the weapons?
    Nope! The weapon story about Emet is this one:



    No indication that he taught anybody anything.

    EDIT: The part of the story doesn't say that his work was at all related to teaching them. In fact it's pretty clear that he kinda loathes that development. We know his work was the Calamities, not teaching anybody anything.

    The other weapon stories are about Estinien, as well as the nameless wielders of Shadowbringer and Thyrus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Was this said in one of the weapons?
    It wasn't. He's just making that leap on his own.
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    Another in-game counterpoint to this "literal malformed creatures" thing is Emet's own demonstration of the Sundering with Ryne. He produces a perfect copy of her, not a devolved blob – which surely would have been the quickest way to impart the sheer horror of what he had been through, if it is indeed what he had been through.

    I'm inclined to take it as unreliable narrator plus writing to convey in broad strokes for a non-FF audience plus possibly Ishikawa not checking the finer points of what the Echo can do, because that entire thing has been out the window for some time.

    The rules of what is the Echo and what is the blessing of Light got completely flipped sometime between being laid out in 2.X/3.0 and revisited in 5.X/6.0, and the lorebook descriptions are from that earlier era so I really don't know how much of it we can trust any more. We direly need a third lorebook to hammer all this out.


    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    But previously the Echo was stated to connect souls together so that one may understand the other. If one with the Echo is unable to make a connection with someone else, they won’t understand.
    That's an interesting way of looking at it too. If Emet, consciously or subconsciously, recoils from these sundered beings and refuses to see them as something he still can relate to, he can't connect to them and so reinforces his impression that they are in a worse state than they actually are.
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