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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    How about just not making a shitty system worse? Direct your energy at asking SE for more and better housing instead of thinking up more punishment in the name of fairness. That's the one true fair path.

    Edit: And to explain this further, hopefully so a few people understand better, the more we call to punish people to make housing more exclusive, the more likely SE is to mistake our calls and do just that, make housing harder to get.

    Because that's what they will think we want!

    Instead, put all energy into asking for better and more housing. Which gives no mixed messages to Yoshi-P that we like this exclusive, hard to get trophy housing. Make it clear we need more housing to go around - using whatever method they can do it with - but do it avoiding suggestion that make restrictions worse.

    Let's move away from "we love housing extreme so much, but now let's make it harder for people so we can do Housing Ultimate!"
    Your argument falls apart after the first sentence. I totally agree that Square Enix should work to improve the housing system but unless they're willing to move away from the current ward system, they should be enforcing the one house rule for every character or FC, including retroactive application onto the existing ruleset.

    The size of the player base has grown at a much faster rate than the total number of available plots even with the addition of an entirely new housing area. Combine that with legacy scenarios of individuals or FCs owning multiple plots, and there's clearly not enough for everyone. Even with retroactive application there wouldn't be enough but at least it would provide more opportunities for the newer players to land a proper housing plot (Harry Potter cupboard apartments or FC rooms don't count unless those get proper improvements as well). There's an FC on Chaos DC that owns 59 of 60 plots in a single housing ward which is entirely unnecessary. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.

    Realistically I'd like to see this:
    • One personal plot per DC per game license
    • One house-owning FC per DC per game license
    • 30 or 60 auto demolition timer that's only skipped for the first occurance after an expansion launches
    • Improvements to apartments/FC rooms so there's a second room and a balcony/greenhouse for planting onions
    • Improvements to customisation options for placing objects so less/no glitching is required
    • To follow on from above, a specific customisation option to remove those interior pillars on the walls
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    There's an FC on Chaos DC that owns 59 of 60 plots in a single housing ward which is entirely unnecessary. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.[/LIST]
    But do you know that this specific "FC" you are reffering to is not only one FC and not only one Subscription? I mean before you gonna laughed at for your Strawman.
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Your argument falls apart after the first sentence. I totally agree that Square Enix should work to improve the housing system but unless they're willing to move away from the current ward system, they should be enforcing the one house rule for every character or FC, including retroactive application onto the existing ruleset.

    The size of the player base has grown at a much faster rate than the total number of available plots even with the addition of an entirely new housing area. Combine that with legacy scenarios of individuals or FCs owning multiple plots, and there's clearly not enough for everyone. Even with retroactive application there wouldn't be enough but at least it would provide more opportunities for the newer players to land a proper housing plot (Harry Potter cupboard apartments or FC rooms don't count unless those get proper improvements as well). There's an FC on Chaos DC that owns 59 of 60 plots in a single housing ward which is entirely unnecessary. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.

    Realistically I'd like to see this:
    • One personal plot per DC per game license
    • One house-owning FC per DC per game license
    • 30 or 60 auto demolition timer that's only skipped for the first occurance after an expansion launches
    • Improvements to apartments/FC rooms so there's a second room and a balcony/greenhouse for planting onions
    • Improvements to customisation options for placing objects so less/no glitching is required
    • To follow on from above, a specific customisation option to remove those interior pillars on the walls
    One house per DC. Halone give me strength, you cannot possibly enforce that. Especially with FCs. Nor should they. This is ridiculous that we have players actually advocating to take away things from people who got them within the rules at the time. Energies are better spent elsewhere, because SE has said more than once that they have no intention of reversing the grandfathering decision.

    I don't care how much you want this to happen. The solution isn't to take away. The solution is to increase supply, even if it's done by re-thinking how housing is done and building a new system that is all inclusive without this artificial scarcity.
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