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    Elesh's Avatar
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    Eleshakai Eraia
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    White Mage Lv 90

    [Feedback] Combat Duties Where We Control Other Characters

    While I adore these duties, myself... a lot of my friends find these duties to be extremely frustrating. And one of the biggest frustrations is that, particularly for controller players, it can be difficult to tell what your spells/skills actually do when you're dumped in the middle of a combat duty with a bar of skills you've never seen before.

    One idea I thought of that would be relatively low-impact would be, at the start of a combat duty that has you controlling a different character, have a brief text popup that says 'would you like to review your <character>'s abilities?' and if you say yes, a text display showing the icon and the tooltip pops up on the screen that you can spend some time reading to prepare yourself.

    Also it'd be really nice if your NPCs were actually listed in your 'party list' for these solo combat duties. Especially if you're playing as a healer lol
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    Chymea Sum
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    You have plenty of time to review the tooltips of the characters you're playing before you start. The enemy is programmed in those levels to not do anything if you haven't moved at all. They've got plenty of time to review the skills before they start fighting.
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    They did update it so that you can move skills around now to make it more comfortable, and I believe you always make the first move in these duties, so you should have time to review what they do.

    I kinda hope they lean more into mechanical complexity with these fights going forward. They can make easy mode simpler for those who don't wanna deal with it.
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    Eleshakai Eraia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    You have plenty of time to review the tooltips of the characters you're playing before you start. The enemy is programmed in those levels to not do anything if you haven't moved at all. They've got plenty of time to review the skills before they start fighting.
    Nice of you to be elitist about this. "I was able to do it so everyone can. There's no need to help make it easier for peasants who are less than me".
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    Zeich Fieltas
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elesh View Post
    Nice of you to be elitist about this. "I was able to do it so everyone can. There's no need to help make it easier for peasants who are less than me".
    Not sure if bait but...

    How is this elitist? All this person is saying is that the battle won't start until you have time to review your abilities and actually engage, rather than throwing you into it. This means that you have time to figure out how your kit works (especially now that you can move abilities around, my biggest bane prior!) and prepare accordingly. There's nothing saying "hey don't make it easier," just "hey, the same function you're looking for is there, just without flying text boxes."
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    Leon Keyh
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elesh View Post
    Nice of you to be elitist about this. "I was able to do it so everyone can. There's no need to help make it easier for peasants who are less than me".
    I agreed with your original point a bit (I think that they should have something similar to the pop ups during Thancred Gear Solid quest), but nobody is being elitist. They explained that you have plenty of time to read them because the enemies don't do anything until you move.....

    Take it easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elesh View Post
    Nice of you to be elitist about this. "I was able to do it so everyone can. There's no need to help make it easier for peasants who are less than me".
    Like the others said, how is saying that what you're looking for is already there elitist?
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elesh View Post
    Nice of you to be elitist about this. "I was able to do it so everyone can. There's no need to help make it easier for peasants who are less than me".
    That's not what Seera1024 said at all nor were they being elitist in their response. They simply pointed out the option to review your skills, which was your request, already exists. The game doesn't thrust you into combat immediately and you can take your time to learn the skills.
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  9. #9
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    Rhotitar Bhaldeyrasyn
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I don’t have a problem with them except the ones which had too many skills on the bars everything in one bar.

    First because it’s hard to reach those areas and particularly hitting skills which you aren’t familiar with is difficult in those situations, but after a few times I get used to it. Later on they condensed them so there is less bloat.
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    Fukudo Daisho
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 54
    Only if you have a mouse I suppose.
    People on the controller can't read the tooltip.
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