Is the new housing notice saying you can keep your money and get the house?

[sagacious]

Moronic take.

This would only be a valid point of view if there were enough houses for every player to purchase one, and a select few were stuck waiting a couple weeks. But this is not what happened, there is still a majority of players that do not have a house that want one, mean while you are getting one for free and self righteously stating you deserve it for waiting a couple weeks while other lottery winners didn't.

When I get a house I wassss going to build an airship/sub and make the exterior myself, but because of the housing zero I ended up buying the exterior for 3 million. I would have saved it and sold others I had made resulting lost profits of around 50 million gil. You don't understand the MB. Being first makes all the difference in who has 1000 or who has 1,000,000 gil. First to make exteriors is huge at 3 million a pop selling ten is 30 million gil do you understand this? If more people make the exterior what happens to the price? So the few extra weeks makes them millions and when I finally get to the board I make 1000's that's the difference .... and I quote "time is money" Who's take is moronic?

[Shibi]

Not just salt... but Veruca Salt

on another matter....

...I think even something as simple as exclusive title like "Generous Donator" would be enough...

There is a section of the achievement hunting playerbase who would fret that this title was forever out of their reach.

[KariTheFox]

Not just salt... but Veruca Salt

on another matter....



There is a section of the achievement hunting playerbase who would fret that this title was forever out of their reach.

Yeah, I just think upsetting the people who care about exclusive titles is a better idea than upsetting the people who care about exclusive mounts or pets. Since I think the intended goal is to remove gold from circulation, you gotta give players a reason to.

Though another option could be to reward people with a big fat stack of moogle tomestones that you could use to buy mounts or pets that could be obtained elsewhere.

[Shibi]

...Since I think the intended goal is to remove gold from circulation...

I don't think that's the goal. It's purpose is more likely to be as a way assuage the guilt some would have if they had a house for free.

Nothing more is needed than the NPC say "thank you very much".

Edit: I'd love for the NPC to be attached to the orphanage in Idyllshire, and a Miqitte'n be the one to say thank you. Nothing in return but a smile. (And also something unlocked later so everyone could experience for any amount of gil.)

[Maxilor]

I don't think that's the goal. It's purpose is more likely to be as a way assuage the guilt some would have if they had a house for free.

Nothing more is needed than the NPC say "thank you very much".

This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing.

Japan will give the money out of guilt.

West will give the money but they need something in return, like an Achievement. Otherwise why would they?

EDIT: In response to your edit, very wholesome. Make the M'kitten take donations for that Children's Hospital in U'ldah that only appears once a year.

[Shibi]

This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing

Na it's not. Heaps of people on the JP forums saying they will keep it, with likes. And heaps of people on Reddit saying they will hand it back or they would feel guilty.

I dont think you can generalise it as a west vs east thing - without it just being a generalisation.

Me... I will hand a large chunk of it to sprouts, to help them on their journey.

[Maxilor]

Na it's not. Heaps of people on the JP forums saying they will keep it, with likes. And heaps of people on Reddit saying they will hand it back or they would feel guilty.

I dont think you can generalise it as a west vs east thing - without it just being a generalisation.

True, I guess I should have said SquareEnix as a Japanese Developer expects people to adhere to some kind of Honor System. I'm still wrapping my head around it. I'm happy to just consider it a form of compensation for their mistake and just wipe my hands of it.

[LaylaTsarra]

I have a question can people affected by the zero bug still get refunds or is the system locked down at the moment?

[TwistedTea]

This is totally a Japanese Culture vs. Western Culture thing.
Japan will give the money out of guilt.

Weebs need to stop idolizing the Japanese community.

There are plenty of examples where JP acts the same as their NA/EU counterparts if not worse:

1. Since this is related to housing, people to this day claim that buying out wards/house hoarding/shell FCs is a NA/EU thing. The honorable JP would never do such a thing. Lodestone data shows that JP has a similar amount of bought out wards/house hoarding and shell FCs.

2. Some of the most popular JP house designers own multiple houses. But yet NA/EU people don't seem to have a problem with that.

3. Some NA people claim that NA is loud and toxic - JP can equally be toxic with community blacklists to ostracize and bully people.

I hope SE publishes the statistics of who returned the gil and includes things like region etc

tldr: There are good and bad people in all countries. Stop idolizing Japanese culture.

[Shibi]

I have a question can people affected by the zero bug still get refunds or is the system locked down at the moment?

Yes, anyone with a zero bug can still claim and the placard retains their entry. In terms of risk management there is a very-small-but-non-zero chance that the fix will bug out, but I think it's so very small as to be ignorable.