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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    guessing fin funnels for SGE would be copyright infringement xD
    Or deathscyths beam scythe.
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  2. #12
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    Time to draw up some moggle weapons for reaper and sage because I need weapons that make moogle noises on newer jobs... >.>
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    My only problem with this contest is there is very few "winners" (I don't mean "winners winners" but sum of all winners, finalists and runners-up). It's only 72 people.

    If you saw designs that didn't get anything from last one, you know that huge amount of them was as good as winners, finalist and runners-up. These artists didn't get anything but their projects required the same amount of work, skill and time. It's shame they got nothing. Especially when rewards do not cost anything, it's just in-game cosmetics. I know it will sound bad to many people's ears, but some form of participation reward would be appreciated.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaido View Post
    My only problem with this contest is there is very few "winners" (I don't mean "winners winners" but sum of all winners, finalists and runners-up). It's only 72 people.

    If you saw designs that didn't get anything from last one, you know that huge amount of them was as good as winners, finalist and runners-up. These artists didn't get anything but their projects required the same amount of work, skill and time. It's shame they got nothing. Especially when rewards do not cost anything, it's just in-game cosmetics. I know it will sound bad to many people's ears, but some form of participation reward would be appreciated.
    "Only" 72 people – and you can double that because it's per weapon – is a lot of people getting some kind of prize pack for entering.

    Also, it's a competition. "Everyone putting in the same work but only one winning" is generally how competitions work. Everyone in the 100-metre race at the Olympics has to run 100 metres.

    A prize for simply entering means that the competition will be flooded with unviable entries by people who wouldn't otherwise enter, just because they want the participation award. It would create vastly more submissions for the team to have to sort through just to find the "real" entries.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 05-13-2022 at 05:23 PM. Reason: Misread prize list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzillaxpowerrangers View Post
    Or deathscyths beam scythe.
    but "light" weapons are everywhere.
    As long as the handles aren't too similar.
    I can see a beam scythe

    GDI. I just thought of a joke weapon for RPR xD
    I wish someone makes a noulith of pilot on speeder for SGE
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    Last edited by hagare; 05-13-2022 at 04:39 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Only" 72 people – and you can double that because it's per weapon – is a lot of people getting some kind of prize pack for entering.

    Also, it's a competition. "Everyone putting in the same work but only one winning" is generally how competitions work. Everyone in the 100-metre race at the Olympics has to run 100 metres.

    A prize for simply entering means that the competition will be flooded with unviable entries by people who wouldn't otherwise enter, just because they want the participation award. It would create vastly more submissions for the team to have to sort through just to find the "real" entries.

    Yes, and in olimipics you have simple rules -> You are the first, you win. And in Olimpics you are rewarded just for participation.

    In Art there are no strict rules. You can't look at art and say "this was best" in the same matter as "he\she was first". As you can see in art of other people that wasn't rewarded in any way: in many cases, their art and designs are not worse in comparison with actual winners.

    And it's not 72 for every weapon. It is just 72. And even if it was 144 people. It is just 144 people from thousands of submitions.
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    Last edited by Gaido; 05-13-2022 at 05:06 PM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaido View Post
    Yes, and in olimipics you have simple rules -> You are the first, you win. And in Olimpics you are rewarded just for participation.
    And to participate in the Olympics, you have to get picked as the best person (or close to it) in your entire country in your chosen sport, and make it through however many rounds of preliminary competitions. You can't just rock up at the Olympic stadium in your tracksuit and say "yes, I want to enter the 100 metres please". Or the gymnastics or ice skating, if you want a more arty-judgy, less objectively comparable skill.

    Competing in the Olympics is the equivalent of being picked as a finalist, not submitting an entry.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Competing in the Olympics is the equivalent of being picked as a finalist, not submitting an entry.
    Note exactly. Because still rules in Sport are simple and objective. You have the best time, you jumped the longest, etc. You are the fastest man in World, you know you will win. These rules do not apply to art. You can't look at some image and say "it is the best" in the same matter as "he was the first".

    You can make your life masterpiece and loose to guy that sketched in 3 minutes namazu plunger. There are no stricte, objective criteria, that if you are best in them, you will have guaranted win like in sport competitions.
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    Last edited by Gaido; 05-13-2022 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaido View Post
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    Well, good luck explaining that logic to... anyone who ever ran an art contest, really.

    I don't think this conversation is going to go anywhere.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Well, good luck explaining that logic to... anyone who ever ran an art contest, really.
    It's nothing unusual.

    This is reason why proffesional artists do not take participation in art contests (unlike athletes). And it's nothing special. You can see many "dramas" where some company make some similiar contest, and is shamed, that instead of ordering and paying for art, just run some contest with lacklaster rewards. This is reason why in case of Final Fantasy it would be good reason to make some form of participation reward.
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    Last edited by Gaido; 05-13-2022 at 06:00 PM.

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