Is GShade allowed?

[Larirawiel]

Why is this a problem for people though? Are people that unreasonably afraid of even the very idea that they could be violating ToS? I would say this whole ordeal should be a learning experience for people. That context factually matters.

It is in this case not clear whether you violate the TOS or not. But if it is a violation then using Windows or Linux or MacOS would also be a technical one.

The kicker about that though? It's business as usual for everyone that isn't streaming addons/plugins that don't give yourself away. Go ahead and use Gshade, ACT, etc. Your risk has not changed for the time being. If you were using it responsibly before, there's no reason you should rethink it now... unless you stream lol. Though Gshade is still probably gonna be given some leeway.

It does not only affect streamers. It also affects screenshots, which you could have altered with Photoshop/Gimp. If it does look like Gshade then someone could report you. Even if it was Photoshop. And if a GM comes to the same conclusion then your account could be banned.




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[Welsper59]

It is in this case not clear whether you violate the TOS or not. But if it is a violation then using Windows or Linux or MacOS would also be a technical one.

How is it not clear though when there is a blanket statement? You would factually/legally be in the wrong to think it isn't. Remember, this is legal text. Feelings and misinterpretations do not apply here lol. Harassment is harassment, assault is assault, etc. There are no degrees to violating legal text that literally makes things broad. The only people who, at their discretion, can decide to not enforce something is SE here.

If it does look like Gshade then someone could report you. Even if it was Photoshop. And if a GM comes to the same conclusion then your account could be banned.

Right, but how is that any different than it is now? Literally nothing has changed. I wasn't aware about that post before this ordeal, but even after reading it, it literally changes nothing about what people have been doing up to now. If anyone takes an objective look at the thread, they'd know this. That post was factually not about Gshade. It did not detail exactly what was approved either, other than that specific ENB injector. People are in the wrong if they think approval of one thing automatically approves another without them specifically saying it does (which they haven't).

Again, nothing has changed from back then till now. Even if people were always unaware of it till now, that doesn't change the fact they were risking things by posting. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it at all. It's the exact reason why posting admission of use of 3rd party addons here wouldn't cause you to be banned in the game. Text admission is not good enough to actually ban someone. Similarly, they can't prove it was specifically you that did anything to get the screenshot, even if you did admit to it in a post. Actions in the game are separate from actions on the forums or Reddit or Discord or whatever. Your terms of service are different using the forums than they are playing the game, which is something I think a lot of people don't realize.

This is why I firmly disagree that this affects others. People have always been operating under these same circumstances, they were just too ignorant to realize it. This applies to streamers too, it's just a matter of SE finally cracking down on it or not. Live broadcasting of admission is very different from someone simply sharing a photo. As I said, there has always been a risk, people were just falsely believing otherwise. Hence, we probably won't get a confirmation if it's okay or not. It'd be great for people, don't get me wrong, but they would obviously just be inviting more problems if they do, akin to the rise in all those complaints about PvP addons and the fallout that is happening now. Foresight of negative outcomes is not a strength of many people, including the devs.