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    G'odwin Merca
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    Ummm, there's already a new ToS last year
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    Quote Originally Posted by JepMZ View Post
    Ummm, there's already a new ToS last year
    They updated one section, a process that isn't as simple as just slapping some words on a document.

    There's nothing to update regarding these tools, as everything is spelled out.

    Here. Just watch this explanation of the situation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nublKg6R1tY
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    it's basically no, however as long as it doesn't infringe on other players experience or give you an outright advantage.

    Don't go around saying that you use Gshader while also streaming your Gshader, and you'll be fine.
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    Saya Finwel
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    Don't talk about it, don't stream it and you'll have nothing to worry about.
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Way back there was a thread about it and a GM said it was ok. That was few years ago, so I don't think it has changed. If so, that would mean graphic card programs also would be against toss since they can do some of the same effects.
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    Oopsy Hiero
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    They have never been "Okay". They have been more or less stating.... WE FORBID IT... But we dont want to spy. So IF you do use it, we likely wont know and dont care.... but... if you start posting it online and it offends people then you will be banned. (referenced to NSFW mods especially).

    The ELUA say none. They also address by done do you really really really mean no 3rd party tools? And they said... well technically then we could peg you for using excel to calculate some numbers... or for using a mouse with more buttons.... And we aren't going to do that because we don't want to know what you have we dont want to spy...

    Its all very clear... Not Allowed.... We don't want to make FFXIV a police state.... Don't harass people... If you use them, do so at your own risk and risk of being banned.

    They also had a bit in a live letter that cover it... like 3 years ago?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/414393
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    Thea Sitori
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    don't ask, don't tell, and don't show (on twitch).
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    If you think SE is going to have someone go down a list of what each addon does in order to decide if this give an advantage or not you are delusional. To then say "yes this one is ok and this one is not okay"

    "so what does this one do" oh it changes the shades "anything else?" We don't know we did not create the mod.
    "perfect lets look at the next mod"

    For ... Every ... Single ... Mod ... and addon.

    Rule of thumb ...
    was it created to be used for FFXIV specifically? Yes, prolly should not run around yelling you use it.

    Half the forum acts like they 100% constantly share their screen, its client side, use what you want and be quiet about it.
    There is no grey zone and there is no slippery slope its all "forbidden". You have 3 options,

    1: Be a saint and use nothing
    2: Use what you want and be quiet
    3: Cry on forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    1: Be a saint and use nothing
    2: Use what you want and be quiet
    3: Cry on forum
    Unsurprisingly we're the largest community I can think of that has a problem with that, particularly #2 lol.

    It's really funny to me that most people are accepting of the idea that while Discord and the like are 3rd party tools, they're clearly not applicable to the ToS in context. Yet, when it comes to GShade, despite their defense about how it doesn't do anything to the games files/folders, they're extremely hesitant. Almost as if they DON'T know as much about GShade as they claim if its drawing so much hesitation. Normally in other communities, such things are left to following #2 on that list, but not here lol.
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    Oh, I also found a list of approved 3rd party hardware and software if you are interested:

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/system_requirements/
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    Last edited by Oopsy; 05-16-2022 at 07:22 AM.

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