Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
What no way pld in XI was not face roll lol you had to be constantly rotating skills correctly to get hate. If anything nin was watching timers/landing debuffs if you didn't have a rdm.
Not completely analogous, but Nin was a far more intensive job overall. (until utsu timers/counters showed up)

Granted, I haven't played since WotG, so I have no idea what PLD or NIN are like now.