The Problem(s) with Paladin

[Eagleheart]

The problem with most of your suggestions is that PLD has zero problems surviving. We've shown in real tests that WAR takes 3-5x the damage PLD takes over time, it just does has higher DPS so people assume a faster fight = a more successful/safer fight.

The longer this goes on, and the more experience I get with both jobs, the more I think that this whole WAR > PLD thing is just really just a cultural and play-style issue rather than an actual balance one.

It seems that most people want to play the DD tank, Most people want to be in a PT where the tank is a DD, even if it had 1/4th the survival ability of a real tank. Players tend to get very myopic on DPS, and if WAR outclasses PLD in this area, they will even go so far as to sacrifice a real DD slot to 2nd WHM in order to make the PT work.

The question is whether WAR +2nd WHM is worth the DPS that a BRD will add in that same slot with a PLD build.

I haven't yet seen a reply to my general inquiry from last page, so I will inquire again. In what scenarios do you see a second white mage being superfluous with a Paladin along?

My position is that a second white mage is present for the benefit of the melee, BLM, and BRDs, not for the tank, be it WAR or PLD. (>.> ) And 3-5x the damage that a Paladin takes seems to me to be something of an exaggeration.