The Problem(s) with Paladin

[Brannigan]

Why would anyone wear full AF? It's really bad. Go to the wards and spend 100k on some upgrades.

[Daniel_Fury]

Just finished CC as WAR tank.
Hate was an issue I was Antagonizing/sentinel on steel cyclone. I lost hate and wiped.
I checked my log to notice cyclone critting 79 damage on Chimera....
Then I used PLD, Riot, Goring and Spirits all hit 300+ dmg on chimera and no hate issues whatever.

That cyclone nerf really shows on high defense bosses. I used to crit at least 400 on chimera with cyclone

[Arkine]

Just finished CC as WAR tank.
Hate was an issue I was Antagonizing/sentinel on steel cyclone. I lost hate and wiped.
I checked my log to notice cyclone critting 79 damage on Chimera....
Then I used PLD, Riot, Goring and Spirits all hit 300+ dmg on chimera and no hate issues whatever.

That cyclone nerf really shows on high defense bosses. I used to crit at least 400 on chimera with cyclone

So people will use the same old WAR/BLM/BRD stacking method but have 1 person change to PLD when they get to Chimera.

Speed runs needs to go away.

[Daniel_Fury]

So people will use the same old WAR/BLM/BRD stacking method but have 1 person change to PLD when they get to Chimera.

Speed runs needs to go away.

Pretty much. I just did not expect WAR to be outdps'd by PLD on Chimera. Much of a shock tbh.

[SwordCoheir]

Just finished CC as WAR tank.
Hate was an issue I was Antagonizing/sentinel on steel cyclone. I lost hate and wiped.
I checked my log to notice cyclone critting 79 damage on Chimera....
Then I used PLD, Riot, Goring and Spirits all hit 300+ dmg on chimera and no hate issues whatever.

That cyclone nerf really shows on high defense bosses. I used to crit at least 400 on chimera with cyclone

Ironically Chimera seems to be the one and only instance PLD really seems to excel over wAR, and I think alot of that is due to PLD's self sustainability since overall physical damage seems to be low yielding low returns on Rampage and the constant running to avoid it's moves lowers WAR's overall DPS.

I can't really comment on Steel Cyclone's nerf, I haven't seen any real difference in damage yet, maybe when I go and do Garuda or something later I'll see a more significant difference in my numbers.

[Velhart]

Why would anyone wear full AF? It's really bad. Go to the wards and spend 100k on some upgrades.

PLD AF would be incredible if the game actually focused on Defense/Abilities more and not how much you can boost your HP.