When is PLD Getting Fixed So It Can Be a VIABLE Tank?

[MizoreShirayuki]

Greetings!

First off let me state that I already know there's a myriad of problems with PLD. I know there are lots of threads about the problems still plaguing PLD so I won't go into any of that.

All I want to know is how/when does SE plan address PLD's issues? A dev. response with actual time frame would be nice considering both 2.0 & PS3 beta are right around the corner and the gap between PLD & WAR is still very vast.

Thanks!

[Answa]

I really have no problems tanking as PLD. I don't see what this gimpness people are talking about is.

[Baxta]

We use a PLD for Garuda and AV speedruns so it's not like it's impossible, but hey lets all moan for a bit.

[Dawiichan]

Yea, we also use it for AV. It's 15 minute voke also makes it best at tanking miser with all the damage dealt now.

[Alerith]

Honestly, with all the minor changes and the HUGE shield update, I haven't had any problems tanking anything lately. I've even heard of PLDs being included in speed runs!

[Chardrizard]

Have been also tanking everything on PLD (Garuda/AV CC speedruns). I will take any improvements of course.

[Luhy]

PLD isn't that bad now. In FFXI, players would wait a bit for tanks to build hate on wyrms before nuking. We either need to switch out Speed Runs for something like "One of each job" runs (for additional loot) or just give PLD something that matches Antagonize + Collusion + AF Helm for burst Enmity+. Maybe something like a bonus +1000 Enmity trait on the first thing you do when engaging a mob... or +3000 hate on all abilities while Hallowed Ground is active. PLD either needs burst hate or the loot systems need to force people to use it, otherwise WAR is just faster, even if it's arguably not safer anymore.

[Gukie]

The problem we have now is that players currently playing XIV are accustom to SPEED KILLING stuff- That's se's fault for creating parties from rank 1-50 without a tank -.-...
Paladin is OK- Whitemage tank is also ok- War can dps and tank thats why people use that c.C and colus*

[whoopeeragon]

The problem we have now is that players currently playing XIV are accustom to SPEED KILLING stuff- That's se's fault for creating parties from rank 1-50 without a tank -.-...
Paladin is OK- Whitemage tank is also ok- War can dps and tank thats why people use that c.C and colus*

O_O

-reads again-

"...se's fault for creating parties..."

Wow, I never knew that SE forced everyone in-game to create parties for content! Those people shouting for dungeon runs and primal fights and EXP parties and PL parties are all SE management people! If you don't join, you're banned! Yea right...there's no forcing whatsoever. People of their own accord create the parties for such content.

Also, what are you talking about? You level GLA and MRD from 1-50....they're still the tank option for classes at that level...

You don't suddenly go "Oh, my GLA upgraded to a tank!" when you reach 50, you know.

And Whitemage tank? Laughable. Aside from WHM being totally squishy compared to the proper tank classes, we have animation-lock, we have spell-movement cancel, we have SUB-PAR HP which causes high-damaging attacks to kick our arse.

Side-note: Is it really that hard to finish a word or two off, as well as keeping a respectably eye-pleasing sentence structure? I had to read that through three or four times before I could decipher it.

EDIT: Also, welcome to patch 1.2#. We don't have ranks anymore. It's levels.

[Dzian]

O_O

-reads again-

"...se's fault for creating parties..."

Wow, I never knew that SE forced everyone in-game to create parties for content! Those people shouting for dungeon runs and primal fights and EXP parties and PL parties are all SE management people! If you don't join, you're banned! Yea right...there's no forcing whatsoever. People of their own accord create the parties for such content.

Also, what are you talking about? You level GLA and MRD from 1-50....they're still the tank option for classes at that level...

You don't suddenly go "Oh, my GLA upgraded to a tank!" when you reach 50, you know.

And Whitemage tank? Laughable. Aside from WHM being totally squishy compared to the proper tank classes, we have animation-lock, we have spell-movement cancel, we have SUB-PAR HP which causes high-damaging attacks to kick our arse.

Side-note: Is it really that hard to finish a word or two off, as well as keeping a respectably eye-pleasing sentence structure? I had to read that through three or four times before I could decipher it.

EDIT: Also, welcome to patch 1.2#. We don't have ranks anymore. It's levels.

I think what he refers to is the generic speed fascination. Speed runs in dungeons and instances. Super fast kills in exp so much of the game is focussed simply around how fast can you do it. not how easy/hard is it.

In exp parties you don't have a tank, you perhaps have one gla/mrd run out pull a load of mobs take the initial aggro, 2-3 seconds later it's all beating up on your thm who aoe'd the whole lot. 2-3 seconds later whatevers alive is beating up your whm who's hit the big cures on the thm and then its all dead.
There is no tank. Just rinse and repeat pretty much.

In a sense to quote you "Oh, my GLA upgraded to a tank!" when you reach 50, you know is exactly what you do. Any level before that your basically just a puller.

And while you can laugh at the very idea of a White Mage tank.. It's been done and its been done sucessfully a number of times.
It's not a joke... well in a sense it kind of is..... but it's very real and proven to be possible