Third party software

[HyoMinPark]

How does advocating nerfs to Battle Content, the same as people advocating the use of Addons?

One are people who, want easier content because they mostly don't have the time to dedicate to turning their game time into a second job.

The other, are people who boast about clearing certain content, all the while making use of addons to clear that content, and want us to believe them using them is purely because of the, "QoL", changes they add.

Your original argument was that raiders use add-ons because they want to put the minimal amount of effort into clearing. It is the same argument for those who advocate for battle nerfs. Especially the ones that aren’t even necessary because the content is extremely easy (e.g., Will of the Moon solo instance was a big one that people wanted nerfed). There’s no real difference there—and you can’t really say that raiders only put the minimal effort into the content they pursue. To be frank, if they were going to do that, they’d probably just buy a clear versus doing anything else.

There are plenty of QoL add-ons that really should be in the game already; and add-ons that literally hurt no one. There are also those that really push the boundaries and do cross over into cheating, such as the one the Chinese playerbase made for TEA that made Limit Cut telegraphs visible when they aren’t supposed to be. Mind you, that was also controversial amongst raiders, and a lot of them did not condone the plug-in. The most common battle content add-on is ACT; and all it does is translate the battle log into a condensed number so that you don’t have to calculate damage by hand. Other things that piggy back off of it simply expand upon its base function, but the main purpose of that program is to be a damage meter.

I’d argue that groups that utilize ACT, FFLogs, and XIVAnalysis to troubleshoot issues with mechanics, damage, healing/mitigation, and rotations are putting in far more than just “minimal effort”. I’ve spent a lot of time raiding in this game going over logs with my static so that we can figure out why we’re dying to this or stuck on that, etc.. Again, that seems like more than minimal effort to me.

It isn’t all or none; and just because a raider might use something like NoClippy or one of the combo consolidation plug-ins to remove needless bloat like Draw/Play or Minor Arcana/Crown Play doesn’t mean they don’t put effort into their class or the content they clear; or that they are only doing the bare minimum. Your posts are needlessly generalizing, and they help no one. Least off all the points you are wanting to make.