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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    Jesus people in these forums hate minorities like crazy. Among understandable opinions there's a lot of hateful jabs that just get tolerated for some reason.
    I mentioned I was a black woman in a thread that asked for ethnic hairstyles and people-got-heated. I was told I was attempting to be ‘sassy’, referred to as ‘obnoxious’ and was told it was odd I’d be proud to be who I was. So it’s not surprising. * shrug *

    As for the request. I doubt it’ll come to pass. While not an unreasonable option, It’ll require more voice work and reworking of a vast amount of text. And different countries have different levels of acceptance regarding this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    I mentioned I was a black woman in a thread that asked for ethnic hairstyles and people-got-heated. I was told I was attempting to be ‘sassy’, referred to as ‘obnoxious’ and was told it was odd I’d be proud to be who I was. So it’s not surprising. * shrug *

    As for the request. I doubt it’ll come to pass. While not an unreasonable option, It’ll require more voice work and reworking of a vast amount of text. And different countries have different levels of acceptance regarding this.
    I would be happy with just the text being changed honestly. They don't need to do the voice work at least in the japanese. Most of the language if I recall is more direct besides things such as honorifics. If I am incorrect I am sorry. I am still learning a bunch with the language, but going off of most things when listening things are more direct where they usually do not say she or he directly. I do not mind being call by ~chan ~san ~kun ~sama those are all fine because besides maybe kun really can be used depending on the characters personality. At least from someone who speaks a different language natively looking onward would see. I could be wrong, but I am learning the japanese sound currently not the kanji, but even still it would be similar. It would only be the localization team or square that would just need to swap the text. It might even just be in the code and they could just add it along with what is already there.

    I am also sorry people can be idiots. My partner has been wanting ethnic hairstyles, the one they would have settled for in the current options was one of the Roe hair styles with braids, but you can't have that on lalafell. There is really only one option besides the silly afro, and as amazing as it's physics are just having simple cornrows or dreads tied back is something they want the most. I honestly would mind it either. Just asking for something simple gets people in these moods, I sware. I would be very sad though if my partner stopped being sassy because of some idiot on a forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    I am also sorry people can be idiots. My partner has been wanting ethnic hairstyles, the one they would have settled for in the current options was one of the Roe hair styles with braids, but you can't have that on lalafell. There is really only one option besides the silly afro, and as amazing as it's physics are just having simple cornrows or dreads tied back is something they want the most. I honestly would mind it either. Just asking for something simple gets people in these moods, I sware. I would be very sad though if my partner stopped being sassy because of some idiot on a forum.

    It’s all good. I’ve been referred to as the n-word in-game and got harassed by a slavery apologist as well. After a while you just have to deal.

    And like the pronouns request, it’s genuinely unlikely we’ll get more options. But thems the breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    It’s all good. I’ve been referred to as the n-word in-game and got harassed by a slavery apologist as well. After a while you just have to deal.

    And like the pronouns request, it’s genuinely unlikely we’ll get more options. But thems the breaks.
    If I could kick their booties, I sure would. Many weirdos, I just kind of wish everyone would just exist and not be weirdos, but some can not help it I guess.

    What makes me sad is it is against tos to use something that already exists because being called the right thing is cheating. It is frustrating, it is right there, but nope not allowed. I can always just take screen shots of every single conversation and put them into booklet and just change the text or something. I am only speaking about the text though, I don't care about the voice lines. Some have conniptions though at the very thought. It would be nice, but I am not expecting anything even if it takes two seconds in some coding languages to just add it in as an option. I would much rather them fix the housing currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Book2Ash View Post
    so it's been a hot minute since the last time i saw an active request for pronoun choices in game, either just differing from the sex of the character model, or entirely new pronouns that aren't currently included in the game. So this is my request for SqEnix to look at the option of adding pronoun choices in the game.

    Now, before people go off about how much work this would be, and how unreasonable, and how little it's needed, I *know* that it is a lot of work, 10+ years of dialogue, and that the people who need this are a minority, but I still think it would be worth it.

    Edit: if you're just going to come and say it's not worth it, please don't comment. If you're going to disparage the queer community, leave.
    Unless you become an Admin and use your powers for bad & personal gain....I will come in here and "say it's not worth it"

    Im not here to ""disparage the queer community,"" or Trans Community/'Non-binary, LGBT+ community (I wish ya'll would decide on one name)
    But I will point out the fact that you said that you know ""how much work this would be, and how unreasonable, and how little it's needed"" then continue to say, ""I *know* that it is a lot of work, 10+ years of dialogue, and that the people who need this are a minority""

    So if you say all of that and Acknowledge the workload of you're request...why ask for it?
    Knowing that its a request that might also take away from other things the game needs that would satisfy a much greater Audience? Getting headgear working on the Viera and Hrothgar for instance, Game Engine Upgrades, and job Balance, just to name a few.

    This request for Pronouns would take away from the actual game improvements, in place of satisfying personal wants over improving the the game itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Unless you become an Admin and use your powers for bad & personal gain....I will come in here and "say it's not worth it"

    Im not here to ""disparage the queer community,"" or Trans Community/'Non-binary, LGBT+ community (I wish ya'll would decide on one name)
    But I will point out the fact that you said that you know ""how much work this would be, and how unreasonable, and how little it's needed"" then continue to say, ""I *know* that it is a lot of work, 10+ years of dialogue, and that the people who need this are a minority""

    So if you say all of that and Acknowledge the workload of you're request...why ask for it?
    Knowing that its a request that might also take away from other things the game needs that would satisfy a much greater Audience? Getting headgear working on the Viera and Hrothgar for instance, Game Engine Upgrades, and job Balance, just to name a few.

    This request for Pronouns would take away from the actual game improvements, in place of satisfying personal wants over improving the the game itself.
    The dialog is already in the game in both male and female versions, the only change that would be needed to at least give something, is to change what triggers your dialog option from your characters gender to an independent value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimere View Post
    Stating facts are not hateful just because they hurt your feelings. One could argue that feeding into the delusions is more hateful and far less compassionate. JS.
    Not sure if you've read but yes a lot of them are facts and a lot of them are unnecesary jabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    Jesus people in these forums hate minorities like crazy. Among understandable opinions there's a lot of hateful jabs that just get tolerated for some reason.
    Its general forums, what else do you expect?

    Also you can’t judge anyone right away if they display a certain disagreement with it which otherwise you or others may interpret as anti oppressive

    No game should further cater for one community over the other, just leave it as it is & accept that certain things cannot be altered but just go by your own personal joy & business
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    Oh, for crying out loud.



    I rather see actual improvements into the game than stuff like this.
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    If there's an addon, well...it's not as if anyone else *will* ever see your preferred pronouns utilised by NPCs, so the problem is pretty much addressed in a manner of speaking already. For RP, the profile message/carrd link can bring PCs up to speed.
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