Obligitory Pronouns Request

[IdowhatIwant]

We have tons of I dont know... developers? that also happen to be XIV gamers, that seem to know everything about the game. So dont be surprised. If they say its easy, it must be easy to do. Not to agree means you disrespect them. I mean whats so hard in changing texts? third party addons can do it (to a very minor degree) that means the official binary client game + the server must be able to do it easily and on a better, bigger scale. I mean we pay our subs right?

Very funny indeed. Anyone whos been in a software project knows. Users request features that they think theyre easy to do but most of the time theyre not. Not to mention they have to keep new patches rolling. The game is not perfect but people need to stop like theyre experts at it. But then again there could be some crazy genius programmers here that can somehow find a solution to this 10 years old and growing codebase, both on client and server side in 3 hours to add the feature officially in the game.

Because if they go down that route, then players will then expect all other players to call them by their pronouns, then the ToS would have to be updated, and a new report war begins by the overly sensitive players. Just no, I hate pronoun politics no one wants it in the game, no one wants all the BS that will come with it. Stop we play video games to get away from real world BS.

[Lieri]

You do realise its not as simple as changing translation text right? look at the character creation screen. I only see male and female. In order to do this they need to add another gender option(s), which might contradict the game's lore. Please try to separate what you see in fantasy game and real life. Obviously other players have to call you by correct pronouns but NPCs dont know about it and in the game there are only 2 genders. Dont see it as something offensive, again try to separate game and rl.

[rachcouture]

Not only is this easy to do, considering the current pronouns in the script are toggled by little more than a metadata switch—it's already been done by third party sources.

But sure, let's pearl clutch over a harmless pronoun option in a fantasy video game that already has abstract ideas of sex and gender in its lore.

[MiaShino]

Not only is this easy to do, considering the current pronouns in the script are toggled by little more than a metadata switch—it's already been done by third party sources.

But sure, let's pearl clutch over a harmless pronoun option in a fantasy video game that already has abstract ideas of sex and gender in its lore.

Will never forget being called "armchair developer" by actual armchair developers without one fraction of experience in software development. Tis always amusing to read posts like "But but it will take forever!" and "You want this for free".

Many things others perceive as being difficult are not nearly as difficult as one might imagine. That has tendency to ruin this pristine view so many here have about the dev team and welp. We cannot be having that! Seriously.. the code for that third party tool is publically available on Github. Anyone curious about how it functions can easy see this.

Team could list this as sub project then port to mainline when there is development downtime. Happens all the time. Projects are listed as not priority but work on if you have free time and are looking for something to do. Would be surprised at how much downtime exists across each team.

[Faafetai]

Not only is this easy to do, considering the current pronouns in the script are toggled by little more than a metadata switch—it's already been done by third party sources.

But sure, let's pearl clutch over a harmless pronoun option in a fantasy video game that already has abstract ideas of sex and gender in its lore.

This is why I am just....sigh I only expected this. I was hoping to weigh in as a 'yes I would like this and it would be cool, but they really don't have to.'
The fact that people brought up their female character being called him/his in the quest "Frozen Hope", and with the text for emotes in the chat you can turn on and off for a gold saucer emote as well as the new clutched head emote was even noticed and reported is very surprising. People reported the bugs, and yes they are bugs, but if it ultimately doesn't matter to anyone why not just leave it as it is. Surely being called the right thing matters to people more than they let on. It is only when they are in that situation they would suddenly have a problem with such thing, but will most likely be the first to come into a thread like this and say it does not matter. Oh lordy I wont even get into the changes the devs did go through with that no one asked for or very few ask for in private that they may have gotten.

In character creator you could only choose either female or male character, so I went with the one that was the same height and look I wished for. I am convinced though that many have never heard of stuffing, tuck and fluffing, those with multiple parts, or those who may just wish to not be labeled one particular gender.

So, I will just stick with what works for me, and watch how many more people lose their mind over someone just asking something they may feel strongly about. I am so glad I don't have to depend on the devs or a majority vote in this thread to all agree 'yes' for them to even think about having an option put into the game.

[Juyira]

I'm a non-binary player, and I prefer "they/them" but don't get bothered when I'm misgendered. While it would be cool for them to support a genderless option, I also don't think it's really a need either. I know there's an addon for it, though I couldn't say how good it is as it's not one I've ever looked at myself.

I have characters of either gender option, and it makes sense that random NPCs call them by the gender they're presenting as since no one would know you're NB or anything from just looking at you anyway.

All in all, it'd be cool, but I wouldn't be fussed if they don't ever add it either. There's already some hints of it here and there anyway, such as *87 MSQ spoilers*

A pair of Ancients in Elpis who are resting and one of them tells you to be quiet because "they're sleeping" in regards to the one laying down beside them.

I'm happier with more subtle things like that than having a more "in your face" approach, anyway. I know not everyone is the same though.

[Nyxs]

All in all, it'd be cool, but I wouldn't be fussed if they don't ever add it either. There's already some hints of it here and there anyway, such as *87 MSQ spoilers*

A pair of Ancients in Elpis who are resting and one of them tells you to be quiet because "they're sleeping" in regards to the one laying down beside them.

I'm happier with more subtle things like that than having a more "in your face" approach, anyway. I know not everyone is the same though.

I get you want to feel like there is more to it but sadly you are wrong and its not them calling them that at all. I am amused at how people will grasp at everything little thing though to try to make it like that even when it’s obviously not.

[Juyira]

I get you want to feel like there is more to it but sadly you are wrong and its not them calling them that at all. I am amused at how people will grasp at everything little thing though to try to make it like that even when it’s obviously not.

It seems a little blatant to me. Most people wouldn't refer to someone they're familiar with by "they/them" outside of a pronoun thing.



That's how I see it anyway. If you feel I'm wrong, more power to you.

[Caddo]

It seems a little blatant to me. Most people wouldn't refer to someone they're familiar with by "they/them" outside of a pronoun thing.



That's how I see it anyway. If you feel I'm wrong, more power to you.

I mean.. have you ever been to the south? Lived here my whole life and it's common to refer to A LOT of people as they/them, simply because of the speaking.

"Did Bob stop by?"
"Yeah, they did. I think they went to the store."

"Have you seen Nancy lately?"
"No, I haven't seen them since Sunday."

Doesn't mean they go by those pronouns, this is just the way some folks speak.

Source: 30+ years.

[Lustre]

Keep identity politics out of my favourite game, nobody wants it.