Might be time to separate the console and PC players

[Thaciscokidd]

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Its been like that for a long time. Up until early access for Stormblood, some people blamed the PS3 for holding the game back. And I honestly think the PS4 is gonna last until the graphical update cause until I got my PS5, some content made it sound like a harrier taking off the flight deck.

Its nothing new.

[TheGrimace]

lol imagine being so butthurt about SE's stance on mods and add-ons that you want to segregate communities lmao

[MagicPeanut]

Its been like that for a long time. Up until early access for Stormblood, some people blamed the PS3 for holding the game back. And I honestly think the PS4 is gonna last until the graphical update cause until I got my PS5, some content made it sound like a harrier taking off the flight deck.

Its nothing new.

Oh wow, you just reminded me about how my PS4 would do the same thing before I switched to PS5. Those were the days. xD

But yeah, I know people have always been like this and always will. It just gets really frustrating is all, as I’ve already dealt with it so much from the Overwatch community. I’m simply fed up and needed to get it off my chest lol.

[Thorio]

That isn't the point of removing mods support. No one likes getting cheaters on pc either.

[Grebeny]

OR

A): SE develop official in-game alternatives to add-ons so console players can enjoy it too
B): Official support of add-ons wherein you can download them inside the game via in-game means available for console players

Separating a playerbase was, and will always be a bad decision with far better alternatives

C): Learn to play and stop crying for handholding.

We know the part of community that is unhappy (and yes, they are mostly from WoW, because that was never a topic before, especially spliting the server). Lets be fair, most of the tools are for handholding, to help you become good without really learning the game. For example, two of the big streamers told before few weeks that the only way to recognize if an attack is physical or magical is with addon, when the addon is taking this info from the battle log, accecible or everyone. Some features are not (and not gonna be implemented in the game) because they are not suppose to be in it. The argument "another game gives me this info" is irrelevant because game designers decide what info should be directed to the player and almost all games have different approach on it.

I understand that there are accecability mods, UI fixes and so on that will benefit the game, I am not idiot. But in the case of last weeks people protect telegraphs of attacks that should not be visible as "simple UI tweak", CDs of other players that intentionally you can't see as "something that should be in the game from years, because I saw it in another game", auto calling bots for legit tool and so on. I don't see how crying around for the cheating mods would benefit the community, the game or anything. In the end they may just add anti cheat and block any form of addons because they will not allow legally cheating. And no, they cannot create list of mods that are legal for you, Blizzard showed that once you open this door, you can't control it.

[Kolsykol]

What an alarming amount of people don't realize is that the same addons used today have been used for a long time, and everyone was happily playing together. We knew it, Square knew it, and those who did not and act like this is news take to the forum to ask for increasingly ridiculous changes. Really, easiest way to solve this is to forget about it and adpot the old don't ask don't tell mindset.

Yoshida has already stated multiple times too to NOT advertise the use of this stuff.
People can't be all surprised Pikachu face when they face consequences.
Being a content creator doesn't give you some immunity shield.

[KariTheFox]

C): Learn to play and stop crying for handholding.

We know the part of community that is unhappy (and yes, they are mostly from WoW, because that was never a topic before, especially spliting the server). Lets be fair, most of the tools are for handholding, to help you become good without really learning the game. For example, two of the big streamers told before few weeks that the only way to recognize if an attack is physical or magical is with addon, when the addon is taking this info from the battle log, accecible or everyone. Some features are not (and not gonna be implemented in the game) because they are not suppose to be in it. The argument "another game gives me this info" is irrelevant because game designers decide what info should be directed to the player and almost all games have different approach on it.

I'd argue that being able to know if an attack does magical or physical damage in real time would lead to more skill being demanded of the player, not less.

If there was some kind of indicator for what kind of damage an attack does, you could react accordingly with the appropriate mitigation. Right now, all you do is guess, then check the combat logs. (Or more realistically, just look it up because everyone knows after week 1 anyway.)

[Rowde]

It might be nice for the dev team too actually

then they could have officially sanctioned world first races and pvp tournaments on console in an environment where they wouldn't have to worry about cheaters

[Batnotinc]

For what it's worth, i play on PC.

Over the last day or two, i actually stopped caring about the addons discussion entirely because i'm more surprised, watching all of the different takes and arguments coming out, at how the general response to people being told by yoshi that consoles play a big part of the broader discussion is to either completely ignore that as a factor, or be more actively aggressive toward them for "holding back the game". Even as someone who purposely avoids finding the uglier sides of the community, this is really turning into a prime "GCBTW" moment for me, and it's disappointing.

I know, welcome to the internet, i must be new here, etc. Disappointing nonetheless.

[RitsukoSonoda]

For what it's worth, i play on PC.

Over the last day or two, i actually stopped caring about the addons discussion entirely because i'm more surprised, watching all of the different takes and arguments coming out, at how the general response to people being told by yoshi that consoles play a big part of the broader discussion is to either completely ignore that as a factor, or be more actively aggressive toward them for "holding back the game". Even as someone who purposely avoids finding the uglier sides of the community, this is really turning into a prime "GCBTW" moment for me, and it's disappointing.

I know, welcome to the internet, i must be new here, etc. Disappointing nonetheless.

TBH I'd say you're just seeing parts of society in general mostly. The attitudes and mindsets you've been finding disappointing are prevalent outside the game as well over things like law enforcement actually enforcing laws because ppl think said laws aren't important. The same type of people will crawl out of whatever holes they've been hiding in to make excuses as to why they don't have to follow it or attempt mental gymnastics to try and convince ppl that the police are evil and the people that broke the law are just victims.