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  1. #141
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    DezereDawn's Avatar
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    just as a point of reference, while they moderate in game, if i'm joining an FC, i want to know they aren't going to harass me based on those things outside of the game in the inevitable discord i'd be joining, so yeah, not redundant tbh
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    It isnt redundant because people dont follow "all" the tos rules when it comes to respect. Ive been in fc's where they still thought homophobic jokes were funny, used awful stereotypes to actively mock and when challenged was like "chill its just a joke" and made it my issue.
    People don't follow all the ToS when it comes to Mods and third party tools. They surely won't for other aspects of the ToS as well.
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  3. #143
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    I don't rly see the issue with it, what it essentially communicates to me is that the FC/ group will be more actively talking about that stuff.
    That said, I think the types of people who want to talk about their identity 24/7 tend to first and foremost not even be part of that identity but secondly also be on a more fringe extreme.
    Most trans people don't want to actually talk about being trans all the time, they just want to be accepted and exist as a normal person and not be defined by that.
    Having people constantly bring it up is usually not something they want.

    I think it's the same with '' womens only '' groups or FC's, I can kinda understand it to some extent but I also think it tends to attract a very particular type of person.
    It'd be the same with politics if you had a FC marketed as '' conservative friendly '', I'd probably expect the FC to attract a fringe extreme rather than the average conservative.
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  4. #144
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    Ink F'rahko
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    Just wanted to say that "LGBTQ+ friendly" does not mean its excluding straight people, thats why its not against ToS OP linked. Hope this helps

    All it adds is the fact that theres higher chance of being accepted being part of LGBTQ+ and not receiving heated gamer moments if its brought up. In perfect world this wouldnt be needed. But we are on the internet
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkB View Post
    Just wanted to say that "LGBTQ+ friendly" does not mean its excluding straight people, thats why its not against ToS OP linked. Hope this helps

    All it adds is the fact that theres higher chance of being accepted being part of LGBTQ+ and not receiving heated gamer moments if its brought up. In perfect world this wouldnt be needed. But we are on the internet
    I'd say it may not be excluding straight people but thats how it can come off. Some folks just want a nice n solid group. Seeing advertisements like that tells me there's special treatment going on and let's me know thats a bigger focus.

    Best groups I've been a part of are groups that just opt to treat everyone fair. No singling out or special focus. I don't don't see "black friendly" or any other advertisement like that (nor would I want to btw) as it's not needed. I prefer to treat people like people so that may be why I see it as unnecessary.
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  6. #146
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    this thread, in summary:
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  7. #147
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    I'll be honest. When I see LBGTQ+ Friendly, I IMMEDIATELY run. I have not found a guild that is NOT LGBTQ+ friendly by default, but usually when a group is labeled as such just means they are just a different type of toxic. This obviously does not stand for all groups that label themselves as such, but just my own experience.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    this thread, in summary:
    If we are applying the comic's logic into this situation then wouldn't the situation be the fact that the pink ghosts made an MMO and now the grey ghosts are now playing said MMO asking why they are not grey?
    *scratches chin curiously*
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    If we are applying the comic's logic into this situation then wouldn't the situation be the fact that the pink ghosts made an MMO and now the grey ghosts are now playing said MMO asking why they are not grey?
    *scratches chin curiously*
    We even abandoned western games to them. Go be woke over there.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    We even abandoned western games to them. Go be woke over there.
    *Stares at the SE ethics department*
    Y-You too.
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