Console Players don't need Addons

[Casualty]

I mean...I wouldn't say they're on the money with everyone but I'd be willing to be there are some out there that use them due to a lack of skill.

Also being "scared" of high end content has nothing to do with skill. You could be skilled enough for it yet scared to do it. If you're gonna take shots make sure they fully make sense

They are commenting on the person who has, in the past, commented about how they don't use Meikyo Shisui or Hakagure because they don't make sense and are unneeded. I think lack of skill is right on the bullseye here.

[Ransu]

I'm a PC player and I don't use addons, this game does not need them. I had to use addons in ESO where they are allowed and I hated them because they were a nightmare to manage (they broke after every patch, got discontinued, etc). Sadly, ESO is unplayable without them (I can't even get a mini map without addons). The difference is that FFXIV is perfectly playable without addons and that's one of the reasons why I love this game.

I never used addons in ESO. If you think they are mandatory then that's on you.

[IkaraGreydancer]

They are commenting on the person who has, in the past, commented about how they don't use Meikyo Shisui or Hakagure because they don't make sense and are unneeded. I think lack of skill is right on the bullseye here.

So then it has nothing at all to do with being scared. Just a lack of knowledge. Last I checked you don't have to be skilled in something to comment and make valid points on it. I'm speaking in general here btw

[MiaShino]

I would KILL for a parser on Consoles so I can improve myself. The few times I've been parsed by randoms in PF has shown me only in the 50th percentile and I would like to get better but I'm totally in the dark on what I'm doing wrong so I can correct it. Watching videos or reading guides don't help me at all because there is clearly something that isn't explained in those guides that I am missing and I want to know what it is.

If are friends with any PC players who can join you for duties who may or may not have forbidden tools installed, ask them to input your meticulously hand calculated numbers into xivanalysis. Can do this yourself too! Just go to where you found those numbers and paste the link from one website to the other. It will give you some basic pointer stuffs but is tuned for 90 raids/trails so keep this in the mind.

Have some of the extended family playing on console. Others do this for them all the time and they have found it most helpful indeed. They are very very focused on improving so being able to see that improvement in real time brings them great joy.

[MediArgentum]

So just to confirm. If the addon has to meet both parts of your criteria to not be QoL, then ACT should be ok right? It doesn't do anything but report your DPS, so it has no bearing on the content itself.

Correct, ACT wouldn't be cheating if it simply displayed your DPS, as that info doesn't really decrease the difficulty of the content you're doing. Simply knowing how much DPS you're doing doesn't help you do the content in that moment. This info can be helpful beforehand, when you're practicing to figure out/master your rotation. And that's fine. Bettering yourself makes it easier for you to complete the raid later, but not because the difficulty of the raid has gone down, but because your own skills have gone up. That's why it's fine.

However, as I have been informed ACT doesn't simply display your DPS. Apparently it has that functionality that calls out/resolves mechanics so the player doesn't have to think and/or tracks/compiles information (such as CDs for buffs and whatnot) that the player is supposed to track themselves through their own skill and not automated software.

[Semirhage]

However, as I have been informed ACT doesn't simply display your DPS. Apparently it has that functionality that calls out/resolves mechanics so the player doesn't have to think and/or tracks/compiles information (such as CDs for buffs and whatnot) that the player is supposed to track themselves through their own skill and not automated software.

It *can* do those things. It doesn't unless you install additional plugins to it. Base ACT is just vanilla DPS tracking.

[anhaato]

However, as I have been informed ACT doesn't simply display your DPS. Apparently it has that functionality that calls out/resolves mechanics so the player doesn't have to think and/or tracks/compiles information (such as CDs for buffs and whatnot) that the player is supposed to track themselves through their own skill and not automated software.

That would be Cactbot, which is rarely used because raiders acknowledge that reliance on botted callouts doesn't help develop real skill. There is no plugin that resolves the mechanics for you, that would just be straight up botting. Also, lol? Buff timers are literally mmo tech 101 these days, virtually every mmo displays buff/HoT timers except this one. I don't use a plugin like that myself but I see no reason why that shouldn't be built in already.

[LittleImp]

That would be Cactbot, which is rarely used because raiders acknowledge that reliance on botted callouts doesn't help develop real skill.

Rarely used? Cactbot is incredibly ubiquitous these days, and has only been rapidly growing in popularity over the last few years. Almost every time I join a pug raid VC I can hear the stupid pops and pings it makes through peoples mics. You'd be really hard pressed to find groups where no one is using it. It's not even widely frowned upon; Most of the times I've tried to call it cheating I've been drowned out and called an ableist, even in high-end groups.

There is no plugin that resolves the mechanics for you, that would just be straight up botting.

A fundamental part of resolving a mechanic is reading the mechanic and determining how exactly you are supposed to respond. Cactbot automates that part of the process in many fights.

[Ransu]

Rarely used? Cactbot is incredibly ubiquitous these days, and has only been rapidly growing in popularity over the last few years. Almost every time I join a pug raid VC I can hear the stupid pops and pings it makes through peoples mics. You'd be really hard pressed to find groups where no one is using it. It's not even widely frowned upon; Most of the times I've tried to call it cheating I've been drowned out and called an ableist, even in high-end groups.



A fundamental part of resolving a mechanic is reading the mechanic and determining how exactly you are supposed to respond. Cactbot automates that part of the process in many fights.

Because its not cheating, no matter how much you want to pretend it is.

[LittleImp]

Because its not cheating, no matter how much you want to pretend it is.

This isn't cheating? You're dellusional.