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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I believe the issue is that you're confused in your premise of what others are seeking and haven't bothered to take the time to really understand what's being sought after. They're not necessarily looking for difficulty; they're just looking for a certain level of engagement, which can be provided via many things, including difficulty.
    Hell, if mods could provide that long sought-after engagement, I'd install that in a heartbeat.
    Wow. That sounds exactly like my argument when I would have to enlighten players seeking said engagement that engagement entails much more than just difficulty.

    Now that difficulty and one button smash dancing is no longer the wards of engagement, we have shifted to needing tools not supported by the developers? Shift the goal posts much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Wow. That sounds exactly like my argument when I would have to enlighten players seeking said engagement that engagement entails much more than just difficulty.

    Now that difficulty and one button smash dancing is no longer the wards of engagement, we have shifted to needing tools not supported by the developers? Shift the goal posts much?
    I think you need a break from trying so hard to undermine your peers.

    You too, Yukiko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I think you need a break from trying so hard to undermine your peers.

    You too, Yukiko.
    You misinterpret my intent. If I smell BS, I will call it out. If two things aren't adding up, I will ask to be enlightened. Those in opposition of my views do very little to remedy either, and basically default to a comment such as this one. I don't need to exert effort to undermine my peers if people so easily contradict themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You misinterpret my intent. If I smell BS, I will call it out. If two things aren't adding up, I will ask to be enlightened. Those in opposition of my views do very little to remedy either, and basically default to a comment such as this one. I don't need to exert effort to undermine my peers if people so easily contradict themselves.
    I apologize for misinterpreting, then, but you do come off in such a way to me. The thing is, I'm not seeing any contradictions present here; you raised issue with the other healers, which was fixated on a very small part of a much larger and much more complicated issue, and you seem to be voluntarily refusing to acknowledge that, at least within these forums, the healer community seems to be coming together behind that one concept with different, smaller concepts as potential things that can be utilized to alleviate the issue. I would argue that they've moved on from focusing on that small facet to what seems to be the real issue and you're refusing to move past it because of seemingly just wanting to put them down for the one small facet potentially not being utilized to a certain standard. I would further argue that you'd be better off spending your time to foster understanding of that broader concept, and grow with it, if you do think there is more to it than the one smaller facet. Continuing to focus so hard on the difficulty when that is no longer the actual issue, when you are making yourself out to not need enlightenment, is what makes me believe that you are actively trying to undermine your peers.

    Either way, it's not a contradiction that healers are looking for more engagement, and seek their individually-determined levels of engagement from multiple sources, even if those sources do include add-ons or mods. Difficulty can certainly be a source, but it is not the only source, nor do mods or add-ons necessarily detract from engagement, even from difficulty levels, if they're being used at all.
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