Console Players don't need Addons

[RitsukoSonoda]

It's because PC players, are used to using other 3RD party programs, mods and addons in the games they play.

It's a feeling that propels them to act as if, they are some how entitled to their use of them, because of whatever reasons they make use of, to mask their own inability to play a game w/o them.

It's akin to, athletes using synthetic injections and steroids to have an advantage over those who don't, they require these tools to make of for what they're lacking.

Don't know your rotation? Download an Addon.
Don't know where not to stand during any given fight? Download an Addon.
Don't like not know how your DPS stacks up in the instance, while also wanting to know others stats? Download an Addon.

There is an endless cycle of Addons to take pretty much any guess work, out of any part of the game, including crafting, market board selling, economy shifting ect.

If you're not confident enough in yourself to clear certain content w/o the use of Addons, then look at yourself and how to improve, over needing 3rd party help to bridge the gap between player skill and demanding content.

Have always played on PC. Never installed any mod into game.

Don't know rotation. Learn it by playing game.
Don't know where to stand for mechanics during fight. Learn it by playing game.
Want to know how your DPS compares to other party members. Why does it matter as long as the content is cleared. As a DPS you can generally tell where you stand by your rank on the enmity list. There isn't a need for exact numbers during the fight. I generally see parsers more often used by people trying to e-peen or using it to berate players that are below them on the parse.

[Hysorn]

Does anyone need chat bubbles to play? No. Does anyone need big numbers in front of their skill to better visualize it? No. Does anyone need to see shields on top of health bars? No. Does anyone living outside of US/Europe needs XIVAlexander to play? No.

But all of these things makes the gameplay more comfortable. Chat bubbles makes talking to people in crowded areas easier, big numbers in front of skills makes visualizing when a skill is about to go off CD easier and has been implemented by games a decade older than FFXIV, shields on top of health bars simply makes the information more comfortable to look at in the middle of a fight and finally XIVAlexander makes the game actually playable on countries that Squenix hasn't bothered to add servers to. I mean, you play any job, especially casters or jobs that requires lot's of double weaving at 250+ms and tell me how good of an experience you're having.

But here's the worst part, all of these could be added, yet from the pattern I am seeing here, Squenix is quite masterful at creating excuses to not implement QoL stuff unless pressured. If independent modders can do that, surely a multi-billion company can as well.

[Padudu]

Have always played on PC. Never installed any mod into game.

Don't know rotation. Learn it by playing game.
Don't know where to stand for mechanics during fight. Learn it by playing game.
Want to know how your DPS compares to other party members. Why does it matter as long as the content is cleared. As a DPS you can generally tell where you stand by your rank on the enmity list. There isn't a need for exact numbers during the fight. I generally see parsers more often used by people trying to e-peen or using it to berate players that are below them on the parse.

If you don't do high-level content just say so fam.

[Coletergeist]

Want to know how your DPS compares to other party members. Why does it matter as long as the content is cleared. As a DPS you can generally tell where you stand by your rank on the enmity list.

Things like ACT are most often used for self improvement whether folks want to believe it or not. The enmity list doesn't count - that really depends on who starts attacking first compared to others and if you die or not - hard to tell real damage comparable to others using that list. It's....meh for the most part. You can somewhat tell, but I still wouldn't use that to compare if you're doing good damage to others, especially since healing puts you up there on the list as well.

There isn't a need for exact numbers during the fight.

How does one say they don't do high end content without saying they don't do high end content.

[MilkieTea]

How does one say they don't do high end content without saying they don't do high end content.

The difference between a wipe and a clear can be about 200 DPS in some cases.

[Punslinger]

They provide more than QoL elements to the gameplay. They can and do give distinctive advantages over console players.

Please enlighten me on how GShade, BDTH, or BMP give "distinctive advantages" over console players. Go on, I'll wait.

A poster here already admitted to me that healers can see the mitigation and ogcd heal cooldowns of their teammates. That is one hell of an advantage if you ask me.

No more so than calling out your cooldowns in chat, or raiding in the same room as your co-healer so you can glance over at their screen and see what's on cooldown, or employing a "ninth" to watch cooldowns and do call-outs, or...

I am trying to understand it myself. My previous question of why would a player seeking more difficult content support and use addon tools not supported by the dev team that makes the content less so got no response.

Why would a player seeking more difficult content do things like look at guides, or use meta comps, or use Discord instead of text chat, or run with gear above minimum item level, or join a static, when it would be far more difficult to do blind min-ilvl PuG runs with randoms? If you don't intentionally gimp your performance, can you really honestly say you're pursuing difficult content? /s

There are legitimate arguments against add-ons that expose information you could not legitimately get (untelegraphed AoEs), or that automate the game beyond what would be reasonable to compensate for a disability (automatic marker placement during combat). This ain't one of them. In fact, it's just a thinly-veiled Appeal To Motive against people you disagree with.

Seems to me players care more about the credibility than the difficulty. Thoughts?

I take it back, it's not veiled at all.
I think you need to drop the passive-aggressive act and get more fiber in your diet.

[Shurrikhan]

Even if it's not a need, there's so many things that would benefit literally everyone playing the game. A small QoL update like adding timers to the buffs and such displayed on the party list alone would help tremendously, for example. Things like chat bubbles would be great for RPers and people taking funny screenshots, and wouldn't bother anyone especially if there were an option to toggle them on and off. Being able to change the colors of various markers such as AOE puddles would help a lot on troublesome visual fights like P3S.

A lot of small things can go a long way. And if you don't want them, you don't have to use them. But there's always benefits to more options, accessibility, etc.

Thank you for agreeing with my point, your post could've stopped right here.

We also don't "need" graphics quality or frame rates above what the PS3 once gave, and yet...

[GaiusDrakon]

The difference between a wipe and a clear can be about 200 DPS in some cases.

To be fair I generally don't look at my parser anymore and stopped paying attention to my damage. I just know what to do now.

But that's only after a long period of actually improving at the game with the aid of parsers and using tools like xivanalysis to evaluate what I can do better.

So ironically it's the high-end players who need parsers less than the casual players IMHO.

[Kazimere]

To be fair I generally don't look at my parser anymore and stopped paying attention to my damage. I just know what to do now.

But that's only after a long period of actually improving at the game with the aid of parsers and using tools like xivanalysis to evaluate what I can do better.

So ironically it's the high-end players who need parsers less than the casual players IMHO.

They aren’t only about your specific numbers. The most important part of a parser, to me, is the raid damage. If people fear being called out for being a shitter then get better or get out of the way.

[DiaDeem]

Nobody needs addons.

You don't also really need Netflix or Spotify...