Console Players don't need Addons

[HyperSMB]

I shudder everytime I read one of your posts. I truly do.

That said, I will say this for 3rd Party add-ons:

- UI/Non game interfering mods = Who gives a rats? If someone wants their UI to have KH themes how does that matter?

- Intrusive game altering addons = No bueno. The button collapsar that replaces your combo with the next step auto style is a distinct gameplay advantage.

PC will literally always have the advantage over console due to mods of various sorts though. Not exactly new, nor something you don't know as a console player going in.

[Scaramouche]

Do they don't need them or they have people using them and then giving call out through discord benefiting from said 3rd party tools while pretending they can clear without addon.

[Veranolth]

Do they don't need them or they have people using them and then giving call out through discord benefiting from said 3rd party tools while pretending they can clear without addon.

One of our best players in my FC plays on their PS5 and they do the callouts.

[Themarvin]

Admitting to that you cannot beat the game with the console setting of UI and the likes and so on and so forth just mean you are not able to actually do that savage og ultimate content that you do and claim to have passed on the same terms as any player in the game whom does not have the same advantage.

Clearly many forum users don't play with actual people who succeeds great time on consoles.

[Juyira]

Even if it's not a need, there's so many things that would benefit literally everyone playing the game. A small QoL update like adding timers to the buffs and such displayed on the party list alone would help tremendously, for example. Things like chat bubbles would be great for RPers and people taking funny screenshots, and wouldn't bother anyone especially if there were an option to toggle them on and off. Being able to change the colors of various markers such as AOE puddles would help a lot on troublesome visual fights like P3S.

A lot of small things can go a long way. And if you don't want them, you don't have to use them. But there's always benefits to more options, accessibility, etc.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Even if it's not a need

Thank you for agreeing with my point, your post could've stopped right here.

[Juyira]

Thank you for agreeing with my point, your post could've stopped right here.

Should've just expected you to be a troll instead of someone looking to have a serious conversation, honestly.

But it's safe to say that without any of these add-ons in the first place, SE probably wouldn't even be looking at improvements to the UI for everyone. Even if people don't use add-ons, I've seen quite a few (including console players) rely on others for things like DPS meters or other features they don't inherently have access to, especially over voice chat. You know, the other third party thing people often use to clear anything.

[Shurrikhan]

Even if it's not a need, there's so many things that would benefit literally everyone playing the game. A small QoL update like adding timers to the buffs and such displayed on the party list alone would help tremendously, for example. Things like chat bubbles would be great for RPers and people taking funny screenshots, and wouldn't bother anyone especially if there were an option to toggle them on and off. Being able to change the colors of various markers such as AOE puddles would help a lot on troublesome visual fights like P3S.

A lot of small things can go a long way. And if you don't want them, you don't have to use them. But there's always benefits to more options, accessibility, etc.

Thank you for agreeing with my point, your post could've stopped right here.

We also don't "need" graphics quality or frame rates above what the PS3 once gave, and yet...

[HolyReign]

It's because PC players, are used to using other 3RD party programs, mods and addons in the games they play.

It's a feeling that propels them to act as if, they are some how entitled to their use of them, because of whatever reasons they make use of, to mask their own inability to play a game w/o them.

It's akin to, athletes using synthetic injections and steroids to have an advantage over those who don't, they require these tools to make of for what they're lacking.

Don't know your rotation? Download an Addon.
Don't know where not to stand during any given fight? Download an Addon.
Don't like not know how your DPS stacks up in the instance, while also wanting to know others stats? Download an Addon.

There is an endless cycle of Addons to take pretty much any guess work, out of any part of the game, including crafting, market board selling, economy shifting ect.

If you're not confident enough in yourself to clear certain content w/o the use of Addons, then look at yourself and how to improve, over needing 3rd party help to bridge the gap between player skill and demanding content.

[RitsukoSonoda]

It's because PC players, are used to using other 3RD party programs, mods and addons in the games they play.

It's a feeling that propels them to act as if, they are some how entitled to their use of them, because of whatever reasons they make use of, to mask their own inability to play a game w/o them.

It's akin to, athletes using synthetic injections and steroids to have an advantage over those who don't, they require these tools to make of for what they're lacking.

Don't know your rotation? Download an Addon.
Don't know where not to stand during any given fight? Download an Addon.
Don't like not know how your DPS stacks up in the instance, while also wanting to know others stats? Download an Addon.

There is an endless cycle of Addons to take pretty much any guess work, out of any part of the game, including crafting, market board selling, economy shifting ect.

If you're not confident enough in yourself to clear certain content w/o the use of Addons, then look at yourself and how to improve, over needing 3rd party help to bridge the gap between player skill and demanding content.

Have always played on PC. Never installed any mod into game.

Don't know rotation. Learn it by playing game.
Don't know where to stand for mechanics during fight. Learn it by playing game.
Want to know how your DPS compares to other party members. Why does it matter as long as the content is cleared. As a DPS you can generally tell where you stand by your rank on the enmity list. There isn't a need for exact numbers during the fight. I generally see parsers more often used by people trying to e-peen or using it to berate players that are below them on the parse.