Console Players don't need Addons

[Link941]

but u see, that is like saying "anyone can be a billionaire, even u"

just because something is possible, does not mean it has any realistic chance of happening for most individuals

I get what you're saying and I agree to an extent. Possible =/= Feasible. But that just doesn't apply to this scenario. Being a billionaire requires luck more than anything, along with other factors out of your control. None of said factors can be applied to progging ultimate. The closest comparison you can make is streamers getting lucky enough to prog with pros. Even then, despite what many may say, it still took practice and skill on everyone's part. Nobody lucks their way all the way to an ultimate clear.

I'm sorry but I'm arguing semantics more than anything, admittedly. Because the word "necessary" is a very strong word. It defines what is and isn't POSSIBLE. Clearing ultimate would only not be possible if you have some accessibility issue like I already mentioned. If you're an average and healthy person, then these people PROVED that DRU is possible to clear without addons by them and you if you put in as much effort as they did.

[Semirhage]

They do. All plugins break ToS. Innocent QoL plugins included. However, despite of this, innocent QoL plugins like GShade and Chat Bubble aren't a problem. I don't know about this BDTH, so I can't tell you how innocent that one is or isn't.

Core of the big problem in this whole situation here is: plugins that interface with the game data and decrease the difficulty of the content (of dungeons, trials or raids) by doing so.

So let us drop these "It's just nice QoL features" argument, because, yes, we already know that. Plugins that just fall into this "Nice QoL features" category aren't a real problem (yes, they still break ToS but most likely you won't be banned for it). Real problem is that other category I've described above in bold text. Re-read it again, to let it sink in.

This argument would have teeth, if one of the banned streamers wasn't banned simply for having visible ACT and Dalamud QOL plugins on his screen. He wasn't Cactbotting or Paisley Parking, just had visual upgrades and a damage meter.

He was punished anyway, because 5ch is pitching a fit, and Square is going on a small streamer ban wave to capitulate to that fit.

Most of the smug "plugins are CHEATING" in this forum clearly comes from people who don't know what they do, don't care, and prefer feeling like superior TOS-justicars on their high horses over reading up on what plugins actually do and asking for some of the *incredibly* useful feature ideas you can find there.

[SwingLifeAway]

Most of the smug "plugins are CHEATING" in this forum clearly comes from people who don't know what they do, don't care, and prefer feeling like superior TOS-justicars on their high horses over reading up on what plugins actually do and asking for some of the *incredibly* useful feature ideas you can find there.

XIV community in a shellnut

[Axxion]

this was back in 2.0 Interview


https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/10...-Transcription

and audio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg-1QR8CpTU&t=309s

[Droxybrobotnik]

So why do you?

If console players had access to the same addons they'd use them too you ass. You get what you paid for, how much did you spend on your console? Wanna know what I spent on my PC? 1600 euro, and that was years ago. And that's not accounting for changing the GPU recently. Don't use the fact that you game on a limited machine as a thin excuse for making shit threads like these, its honestly disgraceful and makes you look worse than anybody you're trying to jab at.

[RyuDragnier]

Correction, "Console Players don't need Addons outside of Hrothgar/Viera Hair and Hat mods". Seriously, let me wear my Bard hat SE, and have a ponytail with my ears visible. I don't ask for much here.

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo, the 1337 just log in to a terminal and run commands/scripts to play while eating doritos, drinking bawls (remember that drink? lol) and during raids use all the good adhd salts...sure it might age us like a dog (amphetamine does this) but it gets the parse in kupo!!!! YEEEEAH lol jk jk kupo <3

Don't need no addons ..pfft lol jk jk kupo <3 jk

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Im a console Player..I dont need Mods to play or enjoy the game.
That being said...some of the mods Ive seen...I would love. And none of them are for hats on Hrothgar or Viera

[agroyboy]

On ffxi yes we used windower. But I only used it to duo/tri my characters. Which in this game you can only play 1 character at a time. Also didn't use voice chat. We used calls. You had to research fights. But I Also played on 360 with keyboard and macros. And still enjoyed it.

Look console players don't need these add-on's. And they complete new content. Would I like or use UI add-on's 100%. So would some others. But point is we can't. ACT,UI and positioning software gives you an advantage over consoles. And that isn't fair. It's as simple as that.

Also hope SE adds some of these UI add-on's soon. Also FF MMO never had bubble chat. And I've been playing FF MMO's since FFXI launch. And we've been fine.