Console Players don't need Addons

[DarkPursuer]

ITT: OP has multiple bad takes and gets filtered immediately in the first reply alone.

[SaltyDaddy]

And yet, they still clear the content just fine, content which is designed to be cleared without them in the first place.

What is the argument here, that it's too hard and you'd like it to be easier? You think the content is badly designed? Which is it?

Because you dont clear any content, I need to ask you. As a casual, what do you do. Relics? Achievement hunting? RP? Housing? Pet hunting? Hunts? Because thats the players who benefit from addons most. Not those 0.2% of cheats, that are hosted on shady websites or paid discords. Those are not allowed in official addon database, as plugin devs hate cheats. Me, personally, I dont know anyone who use any sort of addon they would need for instanced content. They mostly use addons for outside of content, or even being able to launch FF on linux, as FF launcher suck on Linux.

Yoshida, fix Linux support before you not allow launcher that actually works, thank you!

[RyuDragnier]

Correction, "Console Players don't need Addons outside of Hrothgar/Viera Hair and Hat mods". Seriously, let me wear my Bard hat SE, and have a ponytail with my ears visible. I don't ask for much here.

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo, the 1337 just log in to a terminal and run commands/scripts to play while eating doritos, drinking bawls (remember that drink? lol) and during raids use all the good adhd salts...sure it might age us like a dog (amphetamine does this) but it gets the parse in kupo!!!! YEEEEAH lol jk jk kupo <3

Don't need no addons ..pfft lol jk jk kupo <3 jk

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Im a console Player..I dont need Mods to play or enjoy the game.
That being said...some of the mods Ive seen...I would love. And none of them are for hats on Hrothgar or Viera

[agroyboy]

On ffxi yes we used windower. But I only used it to duo/tri my characters. Which in this game you can only play 1 character at a time. Also didn't use voice chat. We used calls. You had to research fights. But I Also played on 360 with keyboard and macros. And still enjoyed it.

Look console players don't need these add-on's. And they complete new content. Would I like or use UI add-on's 100%. So would some others. But point is we can't. ACT,UI and positioning software gives you an advantage over consoles. And that isn't fair. It's as simple as that.

Also hope SE adds some of these UI add-on's soon. Also FF MMO never had bubble chat. And I've been playing FF MMO's since FFXI launch. And we've been fine.

[Serolithia]

Please, can people stop throwing themselves at each other's throats?
Let me just try to make some points a bit clearer outside of the garbled mess of people going at it with emotions.

To define what we could potentially call cheating or for a less grievous term, artificially lowering content difficulty. One of the simplest ways to define it would be anything that does something for you instead of doing it yourself. There's no ambiguity nor doubt about it I believe?

Parsers, ACT, whatever DPS meter you like to use. A tool that serves to analyse someone's efficiency. In my humble opinion, I believe you don't actually need any of that to just clear. As far as I've observed so far, content works in a way that, as long as you regularly make use of your CDs, keep your GCD rolling as much as you're able to and prevent mechanics from killing or lowering your damage, then you can clear. The whole parser, ACT and so on only serves so you can do it faster, which is arguably trivial.

Consoles can't have addons, they don't need them either. PC don't need them either but they can't be stopped from using them.

As far as I see it, some people are trading the fun in playing the game for over-efficiently clear content. Not saying there isn't any fun at all in being good but when you get a random thing telling you how to play...I don't know, to me it feels cheap, weak, bland, empty.

I think these few paragraphs do make for a better objective of discussion about the need of addons, whether console or PC and why. Can we please talk about these points I made? About the whole trivialising content or not?

PS: Shaders and other non-gameplay affecting addons are mostly the personal preference of whoever so I don't really have a way to fairly bring points about it.

[Droxybrobotnik]

The most popular combat addon is probably ACT and that is purely for cutting down on the time it would take for you to look at FFlogs and do the math by just calculating dps for you so you know when you performed below the expected standard.
If you're gonna call that cheating then I guess talking in voice chat is also cheating, because you can communicate outside pulls and explain strats between them easier. Pretty bad logic if you ask me. Do console players not use voice chat?

[Saranade]

"Indeed, we’ve only released duties that we have proven can be beaten with the game’s standard features." - Yoshi P.
I have decided to take a rest from the game due to the communities obsession with 3rd party tools, hoping one day they will go back to WoW or whatever.

[Raige]

I don't need ice in my drinks but damn it is it nice to have.