Yoshi-P and Third-Party Ping Correcting Tools

[Rolder50]

It's particularly funny because they could easily copy the way the ping correcting tools work. To be clear, they don't actually change your ping. What happens is animation locks are communicated to and from the server. Your animation lock doesn't "start" until it gets a response back from the server for you having done the action. The way the ping tools work is that it measures your ping, and then subtracts that duration from the animation lock, thus simulating a zero ping environment (or 5-10 ping depending). So, SE could fix this by either A) Doing the same ping check and adjustment or B) Just having the animation lock start AS the action is communicated to the server, rather then AFTER

[Deedlit]

It's entirely on SEs head as they continue to have a contract with NTT and not correct their issues. We've been plenty loud, even during the server move to CA. Just use the tools. They don't even show up on screen, anyway.

[Themarvin]

Yoshi P acknowledged that some third-party tools were used to enhance the UI and HUD. This acknowledgement has led to the dev team to create in-game tools to discourage the use of third-party tools. This is a good thing.

In this same spectrum, the recent post on Lodestone has also mentioned that third-party tools used to alter packets, ping, and lag were not allowed. This brings us back to the point where Yoshi-P in a live letter had stated he has never heard of international players experiencing ping issues before. What we need is to be louder about this so we could get some attention to these issues. By the same logic used for the HUD, I really hope the dev team would acknowledge it for ping, packets, and lag. SE could further discourage the use of third-party tools by looking into this issue more deeply. I guess what they need is specific examples that they are able to recreate.

Litterally altering the ping on server to eg. negative ping affecs the GCD hence you would exploit the heck out of the game with quicker cooldowns than anyone else.

[Rolder50]

Litterally altering the ping on server to eg. negative ping affecs the GCD hence you would exploit the heck out of the game with quicker cooldowns than anyone else.

The programs do not change your ping and do not interact with the server in any form, nor do they affect ability cooldowns or how fast the GCD goes.

[Johners]

Litterally altering the ping on server to eg. negative ping affecs the GCD hence you would exploit the heck out of the game with quicker cooldowns than anyone else.

The same mechanism that allows XIVAlex or NoClippy to work can also be used to just outright cheat. You'd ultimately have to ban both if you were being fair.

[Themarvin]

The same mechanism that allows XIVAlex or NoClippy to work can also be used to just outright cheat. You'd ultimately have to ban both if you were being fair.

Then so be it.

[Mosha]

The same mechanism that allows XIVAlex or NoClippy to work can also be used to just outright cheat. You'd ultimately have to ban both if you were being fair.

I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok

It isn't about changing the GCD, it's about allowing OGCD actions to be completed in the GCD period without clipping it.

[Mosha]

It isn't about changing the GCD, it's about allowing OGCD actions to be completed in the GCD period without clipping it.

oh, I know, But I think that's the direction they're heading in.

[LittleImp]

I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok

It's because of the mechanism by which it deals with the animation lock. There was an incident where incorrect opcodes were circulating for XivAlexander, which when used lead to the inadvertent removal of the caster tax entirely. That does ultimately impact the GCD.