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    Oldschoolegamer38's Avatar
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    the mod/addon is getting out of hand and is spreading to other platforms JUST STOP!!

    Folks need to chill the hell out, this has gone too far and you're doing things outside of SE purview to do some really shady stuff just to control the narrative. The savage raiding community in response to people who oppose mods/addons use by the savage raiding community, by getting photos that are not modded tagged with sensitive content flags on Twitter and harassing and reporting folks on Reddit for this, then using the external reporting system to get them banned in-game. This problem sits squarely on the savage raiding community's shoulders, the rest of the community didn't cause this problem you the aforementioned group did, and they are doing all this to quash dissent and to deflect the heat they are taking. Take responsibility for your actions! I and others know your all are false flagging and using the external reporting system as a weapon to shut down other people's voices who voiced opposition to your opinion on using addons/mods even I was hit with it over a kitten gif that had the caption of "moo" today, so keep playing these games off-platform with people and the term "F around and find out" might happen. The savage raiders' actions cause more problems than good for everyone and no matter what you folks spin it. It only goes to show the actions you and others take outside of SE's prevue to get rid of people in-game will cause this community to break down even more so you folks can continue to raid. I hope you are happy because it is not going to last much longer. Not only are you folks represent less than 2% of the community who push the envelope, but you folks broke the seal on it, and this is the direct result of it so in response, you are targeting people (Me included) that have a dissenting opinion about the mods/addons, an issue that the savage raiding community created. at the same time. SE should have made this issue (that the savage raiders created btw) crystal clear when this issue crept up back in 2020 so there so part of the fault rests on them too. Never in all my time gaming have I seen such irresponsible, selfish, elitist behavior from a group of individuals in my life. I bet if SE designed the not to let mods or addons access the servers at all you would A: Not play or B: find a way to make mods and addons work just to violate TOS and EULA still to get an advantage over the rest of the population.
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    Last edited by Oldschoolegamer38; 05-12-2022 at 04:13 AM.
    So fresh it'll smack yo momma!!!

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    Faafetai's Avatar
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    This is mostly how all of this started. Someone from jp got mass reported with evidence being Twitch. If I am remembering correctly mods or gm's within the game are not suppose to be watching someone's stream so they could see when they wipe in their savage prog and pull them into Gaol to tell them they are banned for 10 days because they have proof they are using plug ins. I highly doubt they have that information displayed in game anywhere unless they spoke about it within the game to someone who reported them after they admitted to using a mod or plug in. I don't think this is the case a bunch of people reported someone for having plug ins after the statement made on the jp ffxiv news, they spread it on 5ch and they mass reported someone. That someone was banned for 10 days they didn't even get the first offense warning either as they are suppose to even with evidence.
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    Last edited by Faafetai; 05-12-2022 at 04:04 AM.

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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    This is mostly how all of this started. Someone from jp got mass reported with evidence being Twitch. If I am remembering correctly mods or gm's within the game are not suppose to be watching someone's stream so they could see when they wipe in their savage prog and pull them into Gaol to tell them they are banned for 10 days because they have proof they are using plug ins. I highly doubt they have that information displayed in game anywhere unless they spoke about it within the game to someone who reported them after they admitted to using a mod or plug in.
    That has never been stated as policy.


    The policy was no user submitted videos or screenshot of outside sources as those can be edited.


    The person themself streaming is not editable lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That has never been stated as policy.


    The policy was no user submitted videos or screenshot of outside sources as those can be edited.


    The person themself streaming is not editable lol.
    BuT tWiTcH iS aN oUtSiDe SoUrCe""!2121

    -Someone on the Forum who believes that Discord is now banned cuz third party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That has never been stated as policy.


    The policy was no user submitted videos or screenshot of outside sources as those can be edited.


    The person themself streaming is not editable lol.
    Well..... Technically someone could whip up an OBS overlay that simulates ACT and other third party addons, would be a bit cumbersome but technically possible, but I get what you're saying.
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    Last edited by Shadowshinra; 05-12-2022 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowshinra View Post
    Well..... Technically someone could whip up an OBS overlay that simulates ACT and other third party addons, would be a bit cumbersome but technically possible, but I get what you're saying.
    I mean, they would have to do it, with the data from the streamers combat info, party names, encounter, etc
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    William Hart
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    I support whats going on to the Hardcore Minority and ERPers who use third party mods. I'm doing my part to make sure they go back to where they belong, Everquest or another dead MMORPG
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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Edie Ul'mehdi
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    I support whats going on to the Hardcore Minority and ERPers who use third party mods. I'm doing my part to make sure they go back to where they belong, Everquest or another dead MMORPG
    Basically

    "I'm a bully, I want to use the report function to bully people, I have no proof of what they're doing, none at all but SE has enabled me to be a bully"

    Careful what you wish for, file enough false reports, you'll find yourself going to jail and sitting on those same "dead" servers you're talking about, because false reporting constitutes as harassment and they do Not take kindly to that.

    Edit: Yes, before you say you aren't, that's exactly what you are. These people aren't hurting you, they don't actively go after you, they aren't doing anything to you, but you feel emboldened to go after them because of 4 and 5chan which is straight up against SE's harassment policy and if you keep filing false reports and bragging about it, people will turn around and go "yea you know that William guy who keeps following us around and yelling he's going to report us? let's report him back"

    Difference is, you can't prove they have mods, they can prove you're harassing them. So if you really want to put your account at risk, by all means go right ahead.
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    Last edited by JanVanding; 05-12-2022 at 01:25 PM.

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    Kazimere Never'gold
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    I support whats going on to the Hardcore Minority and ERPers who use third party mods. I'm doing my part to make sure they go back to where they belong, Everquest or another dead MMORPG
    Get over yourself. Is your life so meaningless that you spend your time virtue signaling and harassing people who aren’t even affecting you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That has never been stated as policy.


    The policy was no user submitted videos or screenshot of outside sources as those can be edited.


    The person themself streaming is not editable lol.
    I cannot even locate that anywhere. Was that policy mentioned during live letter or post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    BuT tWiTcH iS aN oUtSiDe SoUrCe""!2121

    -Someone on the Forum who believes that Discord is now banned cuz third party.
    You know.. I just made comment hmm ten minutes ago about how FF14 players are incredibly passive aggressive. Lack the stones to even quote who you are talking about, nice!

    Twitch is
    1.) Outside of the FF14 ecosystem.
    2.) A source utilized to provide evidence for the banning of another.

    Ergo Twitch == outside source. Using standard definitions.

    Now reguardless of how I feel about the situation. Cannot find anything about them not accepting or accepting outside sources though. If someone has transcript of them stating this would you post it? Internet tis flooded with nothing but this current situation making looking this stuffs up a pain in the booty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    stop pointing fingers. and take responsibility for your community's screw up
    What are you on?
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