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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    I cannot even locate that anywhere. Was that policy mentioned during live letter or post?



    You know.. I just made comment hmm ten minutes ago about how FF14 players are incredibly passive aggressive. Lack the stones to even quote who you are talking about, nice!

    Twitch is
    1.) Outside of the FF14 ecosystem.
    2.) A source utilized to provide evidence for the banning of another.

    Ergo Twitch == outside source. Using standard definitions.

    Now reguardless of how I feel about the situation. Cannot find anything about them not accepting or accepting outside sources though. If someone has transcript of them stating this would you post it? Internet tis flooded with nothing but this current situation making looking this stuffs up a pain in the booty.



    What are you on?
    I'm not on anything I am just tired of these folks causing the problem and pointing fingers at everyone else but themselves for this entire problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    This is mostly how all of this started. Someone from jp got mass reported with evidence being Twitch. If I am remembering correctly mods or gm's within the game are not suppose to be watching someone's stream so they could see when they wipe in their savage prog and pull them into Gaol to tell them they are banned for 10 days because they have proof they are using plug ins. I highly doubt they have that information displayed in game anywhere unless they spoke about it within the game to someone who reported them after they admitted to using a mod or plug in. I don't think this is the case a bunch of people reported someone for having plug ins after the statement made on the jp ffxiv news, they spread it on 5ch and they mass reported someone. That someone was banned for 10 days they didn't even get the first offense warning either as they are suppose to even with evidence.
    stop pointing fingers. and take responsibility for your community's screw up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    stop pointing fingers. and take responsibility for your community's screw up
    The community can do whatever they want honestly, I am watching everyone eat each other over simple things. They are not really my community, no offense to everyone. I don't interact with people in a large environment. The only community I could somewhat say I am super involved in is dark souls, and even for that it is only like 5 posts of reddit to help someone through a boss fight. No offense but this thread makes me glad I don't interact more with people. Everyone can go scorched earth for all I care, I am not involved. I was only stating this is probably why. People are taking things to dumb levels and I am sure every time a ton of people report someone and show the gm's twitch they will ban every person on the platform because they are clearly doing their job without seeing that people are abusing the report function.

    Personally I just want to be able to see my damage numbers without worrying someone will report me for even looking at them or speaking about them. I have been cave manning it with copy and paste into word pad to see how much damage I do within a dungeon, in explorer mode, and stone, sea, and sky dummy smacking. I want to be able to use simple plug ins or mods like every other game I play. Even world of tanks let people have mods as long as they were verified and not creating a advantage within the competition. People will have a cow if I had a sound mod or something so I could hear the dark souls death sound every time I die. It would definitely be a moral booster for me, but not in any way cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That has never been stated as policy.


    The policy was no user submitted videos or screenshot of outside sources as those can be edited.


    The person themself streaming is not editable lol.
    I know I was considering having something that looked like a mod on my stream as well as audio calls for things so chat could use those. It would be seen as an add on. So it isn't editable but it can be misconstrued as evidence against someone. If one of my chat sounds or sub sounds was dynamo senpai, and someone played it while dynamo's was going off I could get banned. I was also thinking about adding something that integrated with the game so it would be in a separate window so people could see cooldowns who where watching. That is also apparently a plug in and could be mistaken as such. I would get a 10 day ban. This was probably why they were not going on a huge ban wave on twitch before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    The community can do whatever they want honestly, I am watching everyone eat each other over simple things. They are not really my community, no offense to everyone. I don't interact with people in a large environment. The only community I could somewhat say I am super involved in is dark souls, and even for that it is only like 5 posts of reddit to help someone through a boss fight. No offense but this thread makes me glad I don't interact more with people. Everyone can go scorched earth for all I care, I am not involved. I was only stating this is probably why. People are taking things to dumb levels and I am sure every time a ton of people report someone and show the gm's twitch they will ban every person on the platform because they are clearly doing their job without seeing that people are abusing the report function.

    Personally I just want to be able to see my damage numbers without worrying someone will report me for even looking at them or speaking about them. I have been cave manning it with copy and paste into word pad to see how much damage I do within a dungeon, in explorer mode, and stone, sea, and sky dummy smacking. I want to be able to use simple plug ins or mods like every other game I play. Even world of tanks let people have mods as long as they were verified and not creating a advantage within the competition. People will have a cow if I had a sound mod or something so I could hear the dark souls death sound every time I die. It would definitely be a moral booster for me, but not in any way cheating.



    I know I was considering having something that looked like a mod on my stream as well as audio calls for things so chat could use those. It would be seen as an add on. So it isn't editable but it can be misconstrued as evidence against someone. If one of my chat sounds or sub sounds was dynamo senpai, and someone played it while dynamo's was going off I could get banned. I was also thinking about adding something that integrated with the game so it would be in a separate window so people could see cooldowns who where watching. That is also apparently a plug in and could be mistaken as such. I would get a 10 day ban. This was probably why they were not going on a huge ban wave on twitch before.
    wow, what a way to deflect what is going to make yourself look good..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    wow, what a way to deflect what is going to make yourself look good..
    It's not really making myself good as it is admitting that I am an antisocial shut in that doesn't trust people. Also might respect rules for things at the detriment of my own well being. It was like this in school too. If the teacher said no cell phones in the school, I left it at home, same for work. I will suffer with small numbers on my hotbar until square says it is okay to be able to have a plug in that increases the size or way to move or increase the size of toast text and other useful things. I will sit here unable to adjust these things and continue to get a bit salty that someone put the work in already and square could just legit copy the plug in and put it into the game right now. The source code is so easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    This problem sits squarely on the savage raiding community's shoulders
    It's literally the exact opposite. What brought mods to the attention of the dev team originally was modded and pornographic screenshots. "All the drama" is hilarious when the housing community sends the dev team death threats. You can pretend your casual toxicity doesn't exist, no one is falling for it. It is SE's own dumb decision to hurt their own free advertisement, this doesn't affect regular streamers or actually cheating at all. Don't you have some instagram screenshots to take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deedlit View Post
    It's literally the exact opposite. What brought mods to the attention of the dev team originally was modded and pornographic screenshots. "All the drama" is hilarious when the housing community sends the dev team death threats. You can pretend your casual toxicity doesn't exist, no one is falling for it. It is SE's own dumb decision to hurt their own free advertisement, this doesn't affect regular streamers or actually cheating at all. Don't you have some instagram screenshots to take?
    Stop pointing fingers this all stems from savage raiding folks wanting "an advantage" your excuses are not going to be tolerated anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    Stop pointing fingers this all stems from savage raiding folks wanting "an advantage" your excuses are not going to be tolerated anymore
    So you're just baiting, got it. I'll continue to use a UI that isn't from 2010 and you can continue having no idea how these tools work or are used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deedlit View Post
    So you're just baiting, got it. I'll continue to use a UI that isn't from 2010 and you can continue having no idea how these tools work or are used.
    More deflecting and not taking responsibility, I was right about the self-centered part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deedlit View Post
    So you're just baiting, got it. I'll continue to use a UI that isn't from 2010 and you can continue having no idea how these tools work or are used.
    but you are going to get banned eventually.
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