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  1. #41
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    Technically speaking, because of their overly vague descriptions of what constitutes a third party tool, that is indeed something they could technically ban you for. Now normally I would say they wouldn't, but considering recent events...
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    Rude Delahayne
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Macro tools that comes with gaming keyboards/mouse that gives the ability to activate multiple buttons in sequence/repeatedly does tend to count as botting in most online games.
    This is the reason no company goes out and say openly "yes, we allow all gaming software". There are jus things (from ps1 era) that are concidering cheating, as the good old "turbo" button on some gamepads for old consoles. But overall having gaming mouse and plugins for it is not effecting the game in any way and as far as it is not connected with the game, it is not Third Party Tool.
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    If you want to use a macro, write it out in the in-game utility then bind it to a key or mouse button. Boom, you've got a completely legitimate and legal macro using only features found in the standard game.
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  4. #44
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    Fu Soya
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    If people keep their mouths shut, they can use what they want.

    This isnt a difficult concept.
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  5. #45
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    Yunao Arun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    If you want to use a macro, write it out in the in-game utility then bind it to a key or mouse button. Boom, you've got a completely legitimate and legal macro using only features found in the standard game.
    I know there is macro feature build in-game but i can't bind those macros for keyboard and mouse programmable G buttons without using gaming software to determine what the keypress is (in my case Alt + [number] and CTRL + [number] keypress), when mostly the keyboard and mouse programmable G buttons are either emply or using either number keys or F1 to F12 keys in their default onboard profile and i'm already using number and F1 to F12 keys for hotbars.

    Also i never used the gaming softwares macro features in any game.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    This entire topic could have been prevented by watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4OPGYN6NGw
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Just ask yourself. Are you a streamer?
    No? Nothing changes.
    Yes? Well f....
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    Raigou Veevr
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    I bet you're using a browser to go through this forum. You should know that a browser is a 3rd party tool that's not associated with SE. Therefore the entire playerbase needs to be purged because they all used it to register their accounts.
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  9. #49
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    Vice Shark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Where's the megathread of whataboutisms? I'd love to read the hilarious and facepalm worthy takes on this fiasco in one sitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Yuki Yagami
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is, funnily enough, one area where Square is not unique. Using the logitech gaming software - or the equivalent from any other manufacturer of keyboards and mice - is a violation of pretty much any online game's TOS. Blizzard, Riot, Valve, etc could all issue a permanent suspension for the use of that software, and Blizzard's a bit infamous for actually having done so.

    Of course, since it's packages with the hardware, you don't get a ban just for having it. What they don't want you doing typically is "Pushing 1 key sends 5 key presses" or "This macro auto repeats while I'm AFK" and so on. And even then, enforcement is typically low to nonexistent if it isn't super blatant. But on the books, it's typically against the rules.

    Also, from SE's website:


    Sadly, this tends to be a bit more reasonable than the Lodestone posts and live letters, which typically suggest a stricter stance than what's on SE's support website. But one could interpret this to mean it is ok as long as 1. It doesn't allow unattended play and 2. It does not interact with the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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