Is using gaming software really not allowed anymore?

[Canadane]

yep. absolutely banned because ps players can't use those things. Thank you for spending money and wasting your time on my product!!! ~ Yoshi P

Playstation users can in fact use the g600 mouse and most keyboards.

[gotaname1]

Playstation users can in fact use the g600 mouse and most keyboards.

But its third party. So okay, it is hardware and not software even if there might be software involved in order to instal it on a playstation. But it still is not something that comes with the game, or even a playstation. Therefor it gives those users an advantage over playstation players. So it is literally cheating.

amidoinitrite?

EDIT: I hate that we, as players of the game, are so easily divided, purely because SE just can't get their ToS clear. The Japanese culture that condones and rewards doxing really does not help.

[Gyson]

But its third party. So okay, it is hardware and not software even if there might be software involved in order to instal it on a playstation. But it still is not something that comes with the game, or even a playstation. Therefor it gives those users an advantage over playstation players. So it is literally cheating.

amidoinitrite?

EDIT: I hate that we, as players of the game, are so easily divided, purely because SE just can't get their ToS clear. The Japanese culture that condones and rewards doxing really does not help.

As far as rules go I feel like the ToS is pretty clear, but some people are just determined to see what they can get away with. Sort of like when we were little children, and a parent told us not to do something, and we took their statement as a suggestion rather than as the order it was intended to be.

I look at the forum and think people have traded in common sense for drama. This thread is just one example of many. I remind myself that most players are blissfully unaware of them, as only a tiny percentage of players make use of the forums.

[Elkanah]

If we want to be really technical- we had to use a 3rd party software tool to sign up on mogstation. So whether it be chrome, firefox, (god forbid IE), or PS internet web browser, etc, we couldve been banned for having used that instead of making it simple enough to do from the ffxiv window on the platform of choice. Rip

[Canadane]

But its third party. So okay, it is hardware and not software even if there might be software involved in order to instal it on a playstation. But it still is not something that comes with the game, or even a playstation. Therefor it gives those users an advantage over playstation players. So it is literally cheating.

amidoinitrite?

EDIT: I hate that we, as players of the game, are so easily divided, purely because SE just can't get their ToS clear. The Japanese culture that condones and rewards doxing really does not help.

Breakfast gives an unfair advantage over those that don't eat properly, right?

I hope I don't need to go into further detail than that.

Also, as divided as people are, I have nothing personal against anyone. <3

[Vahlnir]

Breakfast gives an unfair advantage over those that don't eat properly, right?

What about second breakfast?

[Ronduwil]

If it really means that, then i'm i really in trouble now for using them for while?

There's no "anymore" about it. It's never been allowed. Yoshi-P has been pretty consistent with this. There are tools that they are willing to overlook because policing them is more trouble than it's worth, but they're not going to flat out say what those tools are because they don't want to be snared into a back and forth on why they're permitting/not permitting your favorite/least favorite tool. Instead they took the easier route of just banning everything across the board. I saw an interview last year where he basically said that while they would rather spend their time on improving the game, they can step up enforcement at any time, so you're using addons at your own risk. If you want to hear it from the source itself, the video is still up on YouTube: https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU

[RubyCirha]

the tos literally hasn't changed its been like this for years unless there was an update to the tos im not aware of SE is to clarifying that tos violations are a thing and in the interest of fairness across the board they ask you to not use them all this fear mongering is doing no good for anyone all your doing is getting stressed out over it and its literaly just the same stuff we have had to deal with for years within the game honestly im just happy yoshida and his team are looking in to ways to implement some of the features these addons provide as QOL improvements at a later date

[Elkanah]

What about second breakfast?

*manofculturememe.jpeg*

[Batbrat]

Yes actually, everything is a third party and you're all going to be banned. You're all victims even though no one is checking for any of you. So sorry you're all going through this which you arent because nothing is happening to anyone who isnt streaming.