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    Question Is using gaming software really not allowed anymore?

    After reading this Final Fantasy XIV Regarding Third-party Tools news post about Third-party Tools, if i did read correctly the "Defining Third Party Tools" part of the post.

    Does it really mean that i can't use gaming software like Logitech G Hub to bind CTRL + [number] key press for my Logitech G600 MMO mouse G buttons and Corsair iCUE to bind Alt + [number] key press for my Corsair K95 keyboard G keys to able to press CTRL + [number] and Alt + [number] more easily without needing to look the keyboard to press right CTRL + [number] or Alt + [number] key combination all the time?

    If it really means that, then i'm i really in trouble now for using them for while?


    Edit:

    I have decided not to take any risks anymore so i won't use any of gaming softwares that would allow usage of their programmable G buttons as keypress like CTRL or Alt + [number], i won't use Steam and Nvidia GeForce Experiense any of their in-game features, i won't use Steam own controller configuration to set PS4 controller thumbstick deadzones,calibrate gyroscope, customize lightbar, remap buttons and able to use touchpad as mouse and i won't use any software that comes with controllers either.

    So now i only use PS4 controller connected via USB cable and using Windows 10 own default contoller plug & play drivers and i use gaming keyboard only for typing to chat.
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    Last edited by UNDEAD10000; 05-13-2022 at 03:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    After reading this Final Fantasy XIV Regarding Third-party Tools news post about Third-party Tools, if i did read correctly the "Defining Third Party Tools" part of the post.

    Does it really mean that i can't use gaming software like Logitech G Hub to bind CTRL + [number] key press for my Logitech G600 MMO mouse G buttons and Corsair iCUE to bind Alt + [number] key press for my Corsair K95 G keys to able to press CTRL + [number] and Alt + [number] more easily without needing to always to look the keyboard to press right CTRL + [number] or Alt + [number] key combination?

    If it really means that, then i'm i really in trouble now for using them for while?
    This is, funnily enough, one area where Square is not unique. Using the logitech gaming software - or the equivalent from any other manufacturer of keyboards and mice - is a violation of pretty much any online game's TOS. Blizzard, Riot, Valve, etc could all issue a permanent suspension for the use of that software, and Blizzard's a bit infamous for actually having done so.

    Of course, since it's packages with the hardware, you don't get a ban just for having it. What they don't want you doing typically is "Pushing 1 key sends 5 key presses" or "This macro auto repeats while I'm AFK" and so on. And even then, enforcement is typically low to nonexistent if it isn't super blatant. But on the books, it's typically against the rules.

    Also, from SE's website:
    ■Behavior that disrupts the game balance
    Square Enix strictly prohibits the use of third-party programs or tools as these disrupt the balance of the game. Third-party programs and tools that permit automated or "absentee" play are prohibited. A Game Master (GM) may speak to players to investigate and confirm "absentee" play, and if the player continues with this behavior, contrary to the GM's instructions, they will be treated as participating in "absentee" play and subject to penalties.

    Accordingly, the following activities are prohibited:

    - Modifying, analyzing, integrating, and/or reverse-engineering game software or data.
    - Creating, distributing, using, or promoting utilities that interact with the game.
    Sadly, this tends to be a bit more reasonable than the Lodestone posts and live letters, which typically suggest a stricter stance than what's on SE's support website. But one could interpret this to mean it is ok as long as 1. It doesn't allow unattended play and 2. It does not interact with the game.
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    yep. absolutely banned because ps players can't use those things. Thank you for spending money and wasting your time on my product!!! ~ Yoshi P
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    Yes we all need to become peasants now so we don't have any QoL advantage from the superior platform.

    Not really, you can still use them. Just be quiet about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    After reading this Final Fantasy XIV Regarding Third-party Tools news post about Third-party Tools, if i did read correctly the "Defining Third Party Tools" part of the post.

    Does it really mean that i can't use gaming software like Logitech G Hub to bind CTRL + [number] key press for my Logitech G600 MMO mouse G buttons and Corsair iCUE to bind Alt + [number] key press for my Corsair K95 G keys to able to press CTRL + [number] and Alt + [number] more easily without needing to always to look the keyboard to press right CTRL + [number] or Alt + [number] key combination?

    If it really means that, then i'm i really in trouble now for using them for while?
    None of the tools you are talking about is interacting with the game client or files or data. They are not FFXIV third party tools.
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    Everyone who bought the game on steam will be banned? Because steam overlay is a 3rd party tool...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milus View Post
    Everyone who bought the game on steam will be banned? Because steam overlay is a 3rd party tool...
    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    None of the tools you are talking about is interacting with the game client or files or data. They are not FFXIV third party tools.
    They absolutely interact with the game. Using a keyboard macro tool to record a loop that tab targets a house placard and tries to bid on it every 5 seconds is a botting activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    They absolutely interact with the game. Using a keyboard macro tool to record a loop that tab targets a house placard and tries to bid on it every 5 seconds is a botting activity.
    Yeah nice logic, since people are saying that you should be banned from using logitch or any keyboard-mouse software, why not ban also geforce experience? maybe even ban windows users because you have services running on background.

    Seriously mod/addons players got cracked hard this time.
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    These forums posts are getting worse and worse everyday
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