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    New Magic DPS job idea!

    So I took like a month break to catch up on WoW to see what I missed (for those who left and haven't checked in there isn't much to talk about) and I noticed something. WoW has quite the selection of magical dps classes (jobs) compared to FF14. So I started brainstorming a possible idea for a magic dps job that would be suited for FF14.

    Now beware as I don't have a lot of knowledge of the final fantasy franchise outside of my experiences in FF14, FF7, FF6, and FF tactics. But I think a non far fetched idea would be...

    The Painter job!

    The Painter job is a Magical Ranged dps job that uses a Brush and Palette. By using aether around them they begin to form pictures in the air (or on some white rectangle thing i cant think of name). Once these pictures take form they are unleashed upon their enemies.

    A few nice examples on how this would work: Painter begins painting a water fall, within the cast time of finishing it above the enemy a heavy wave of water pours onto the enemy and takes big damage.

    A painter can begin painting a chocobo stampede and from the picture in front of them a bunch of chocobos rushes into the enemy in a stampede like animation and exploding back into paint upon impact.

    A painter paints a picture of a Moogle caster (or any sort of pet / minion variant) that works as a timed pet combatant that fires magic at their enemis.

    With the art and magic of painting anything is possible, there is no fantasy limit that they will have themselves bound too and within the FF14 universe we've faced a boss in Stormblood (i believe) that used paintings as magic against us and we used them to protect ourselves. So it isn't a far fetched idea.

    If you guys have any great ideas or feedback for a new magical dps job, I would be glad to hear it! Thank you for reading!
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    Sounds like NIN and BLU had a baby and SUM was their babysitter

    Not a bad Idea but doesn't sound like a major class so far form what I've read more of a limited job
    Also I don't remember there being and this FF that could transition into this so it has that as a handicap
    Not a fan of more pet classes since they don't really come out as people imagine

    cheesing Mechs like flying can be exploited making that a impossible option to be a main class hard to balance around
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    Ah well I wouldn't be sure what they added or did but I just would like another magic dps and as i was thinking something out I was trying to get something like Demonology Warlock from WoW into FF14.... but more fitting for the FF14 theme.
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    So, a bit like a player version of Chadarnook in Sigmascape V2.0
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    Yeah something like that. I came to that conclusion because between green mage, time mage, mathetician mage, Geomancer and other FF Tactic inspired jobs I couldn't think of anything that would really fit as a player version. So I was thinking and thinking and for some reason my brain kinda of drifted towards Sai from Naruto Shippuden how he would use a scroll and draw images that came to life as Ninjutsu so i thought... what if players drawed... no painted images into attacks then i remembered the boss from stormblood and i was like .... this isn't that far fetched
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    Is there a difference from this to SMN not to run over your idea I like it but I want to see a bit more as to where this could be unique
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    Well Tbh I wasn't sure those were just a few ideas i came up with in terms of spells. I wouldn't know how Square Enix would design the next magic dps class or how they would like it to be different from others. But painting environmental things like earth quakes, volcano eruptions, tornadoes, hurricanes to things of wild animals like chocobo stampedes, flora vines coming around and lashing or entangling enemies, to Raising a barrier of earth as a defensive cd, even painting fire bombs to charge at their enemies to explode.

    Tbh i'm being inspired by think Druidism with nature manipulation, Shamanism with Element manipulation, Beast Master (ff job) for animal magics / controls (a bit of BLU too), with a bit of Demonology magic of just summoning demons (minions) to charge in and die. All in the art of paint making it happen in a theme befitting Final Fantasy.
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    So like Relm then? Also the class name would be pictomancer, calling it painter just kills all excitement. Personally I'd rather they add chronomancer, plus, creating an art picture for each attack would be a lot of work.
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    I agree it would be a lot of work animation wise, i was just wanting another magical dps job with constant casting. Think gunbreaker with the cartridge ability that has 3 moves, and then you use a off GCD in between each one in a synergy like fashion. Something like that could work with chronomancer and its time magic.
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    I could see this a a really cool tank mage alternating between minion and self and magic CD but I'm sure that's not what your going for
    I think you want more of a DPS sacrificing your minion to do more damage is interesting reminds me of the old rook and bishop for Mch
    Multiple summons is a cool idea but gonna have to be tweaked for FF to not murder peoples frame rate but that's not a question right now
    Were trying to make the class first

    There is something here maybe we can flush it out

    - Minion that can be sacrificed for dmg
    -Multi summons (maybe a sort of dual cast or delay cast could be an option)
    -Earth Barrier (Like this Idea Maybe you become the rock and reduce meteors or party dmg to who ever is behind you)
    -chocobo stampede is simply fun and cool
    - Volcano (maybe a aoe dot or ground dot)
    -earth quake/ tornado (I can think of somethings but this also could be used for other classes so IDK)

    So far I can see some solid Mechs here and some uniqueness
    might need to clean up the theme a bit but overall not impossible
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