Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

[Darkpaw]

Kind of funny, it’s okay to make fun and cancel a man who is on medication for anger problems he has admitted to and been pretty open about.

All because he has anger issues? So what if he had one of the “cool mental disorders” you all would take up for him? The man has said before he needs his medication and has anger issues that he struggles with and is trying to work on.

There was no reason to witch hunt ban him, UI mods are bloody harmless. Sure I don't always agree with the man especially his take on console players given I’ve been one since day one in this game. But I’m not going to seek to ban someone because he doesn't agree with me. Some of yall need to go outside and touch anything or you need a come to Jesus moment or somethin…

The amount of people saying “what a toxic piece of trash he shouldnt be streaming with a temper like that.” Man with mental health concerns cant follow his passion?

Maybe you all shouldn’t be allowed to speak without empathy.

[VillainQueen]

Kind of funny, it’s okay to make fun and cancel a man who is on medication for anger problems he has admitted to and been pretty open about.

All because he has anger issues? So what if he had one of the “cool mental disorders” you all would take up for him? The man has said before he needs his medication and has anger issues that he struggles with and is trying to work on.

There was no reason to witch hunt ban him, UI mods are bloody harmless. Sure I don't always agree with the man especially his take on console players given I’ve been one since day one in this game. But I’m not going to seek to ban someone because he doesn't agree with me. Some of yall need to go outside and touch anything or you need a come to Jesus moment or somethin…

The amount of people saying “what a toxic piece of trash he shouldnt be streaming with a temper like that.” Man with mental health concerns cant follow his passion?

Maybe you all shouldn’t be allowed to speak without empathy.

Mental health issues are not an excuse to abuse other people.

[Darkpaw]

Really? So those with problems should hide their problems, never speak openly about them, never slip up and be perfect all the time no matter the pressure they are put in?

Never make a mistake again. Just because you dont like someone, doesn’t give you the right to judge them. You don’t know what they go through.

I hope you remember that and I hope when you make a mistake, or when you slip up, someone isn’t so quick to judge you for your mistakes, and your slip ups and instead sees you as the person you are.

[LeonKeyh]

Really? So those with problems should hide their problems, never speak openly about them, never slip up and be perfect all the time no matter the pressure they are put in?

Never make a mistake again. Just because you dont like someone, doesn’t give you the right to judge them. You don’t know what they go through.

I hope you remember that and I hope when you make a mistake, or when you slip up, someone isn’t so quick to judge you for your mistakes, and your slip ups and instead sees you as the person you are.

When you make a mistake, you should expect to deal with the consequences of that mistake. The bigger the mistake, the bigger the consequences. I enjoy watching Pyro when he's having a good time, but he definitely is an asshole sometimes, this is hardly the first time that he's been an asshole to people in his chat. I've been subbed to him though because most of the time he's fine.

I can't imagine what it's like to deal with that chat because there are some dumbasses in there for sure. But, you don't get carte blanch freedom to "make mistakes" without taking responsibility for those mistakes.

Nobody at all said those people have to hide their problems or not speak openly about them. You're straw-manning. Fact of the matter is, you make a mistake, you deal with the consequences. You can explain why the mistake was made, but it doesn't protect you from the consequences, ESPECIALLY whenever you're abusing others. If he were to get angry at the game that would be one thing.

[VillainQueen]

When you make a mistake, you should expect to deal with the consequences of that mistake. The bigger the mistake, the bigger the consequences. I enjoy watching Pyro when he's having a good time, but he definitely is an asshole sometimes, this is hardly the first time that he's been an asshole to people in his chat. I've been subbed to him though because most of the time he's fine.

I can't imagine what it's like to deal with that chat because there are some dumbasses in there for sure. But, you don't get carte blanch freedom to "make mistakes" without taking responsibility for those mistakes.

Nobody at all said those people have to hide their problems or not speak openly about them. You're straw-manning. Fact of the matter is, you make a mistake, you deal with the consequences. You can explain why the mistake was made, but it doesn't protect you from the consequences, ESPECIALLY whenever you're abusing others. If he were to get angry at the game that would be one thing.

It's not only the chat tho. While he did the 2nd Endwalker trial for example a healer rescured him into the safe zone and he threw a hissy fit. Often he blames his teammates for his mistakes so much that even his chat doesn't really want him to play with real people anymore. None of these other players deserve to be berated and humiliated on stream just because he can't control himself.

[Scaramouche]

It's not only the chat tho. While he did the 2nd Endwalker trial for example a healer rescured him into the safe zone and he threw a hissy fit. Often he blames his teammates for his mistakes so much that even his chat doesn't really want him to play with real people anymore. None of these other players deserve to be berated and humiliated on stream just because he can't control himself.

For someone who seems to despite this guy you sure know a lot about the content he makes.

[VillainQueen]

For someone who seems to despite this guy you sure know a lot about the content he makes.

I don't despite him tbh, I just read about him on reddit today.

[LeonKeyh]

It's not only the chat tho. While he did the 2nd Endwalker trial for example a healer rescured him into the safe zone and he threw a hissy fit. Often he blames his teammates for his mistakes so much that even his chat doesn't really want him to play with real people anymore. None of these other players deserve to be berated and humiliated on stream just because he can't control himself.

Yup, he has, several times, complained about people that he's playing with as well. It got especially bad in Endwalker, but he didn't want to be rescued and didn't want to listen to overviews of the fights. Then, he would spend a good deal of time on the floor complaining that he had "no idea what was going on." He got pissed at people for walking in front of him in some dungeons because he wanted to take screenshots seemingly not remembering that Twitch has a pretty serious delay. He'd say "Could you move, I want to take a screenshot" and 2 seconds later when they didn't move (because they didn't hear that yet) he'd get pissed at them.

Overall, anger issues are understandable. Hell, I have anger issues. I've broken controllers, keyboards, mice, etc due to anger issues in games. But, people like me that have those issues NEED to learn to not direct them to objects (or internally) NOT the people. There's no excuse for abusing people. Period. You want to defend him for flipping out at the game? some piece of hardware? himself? Go for it. But nobody should excuse abusing another person.

[Darkpaw]

Nobody deserves it but i have watched Pyro’s streams and I have seen him apologize to the chat for his outbursts almost every time he has one, ive seen him go back and undo timeouts he realized were uncalled for and apologized for them.

Mistakes don’t define a person, and people who play with him choose to do so, knowing what he deals with, knowing he could rant or pop off.

Being unable to hold back doesn’t mean you’re the asshole, because as some who has struggled and continues to struggle with anger problems in the past believe me you feel a lot worse for a lot longer once you calm down and realize what you’ve done than those who had it happen, you beat yourself up you blame yourself you get angry at yourself because you know you should be better you shouldn’t have reacted that way but you cant help it. You know those who suffer your anger don’t deserve it and you end up hating yourself for doing it.

This is why I said empathy is important. Yes, he has to take responsibility for his actions, no anger issues aren’t a carte blanche excuse to do whatever you want, but it is also not a reason to condemn a man especially if you don’t know what it’s like to have anger issues. To be on medication for them.

You want to say he played with fire for showing off and (arguably) promoting ui mods, that’s one thing. Judging his character as a person as an excuse to justify mass reporting and saying he deserves his ban because you dont like how he is. Is wrong, and abhorrent behavior. His interactions with his chat have nothing to do with his ban, and should not be used to justify it.

Because if it’s okay to justify pyro’s ban for his behavior, than I imagine, Xeno and Arthas will soon be joining him in ban land.