Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

[Gameovers]

This has gotten out of hand in just two days. And I didn't know Pyro was this toxic... Then again looking at the game he came from.... If he gets banned then it's on him. You can't explode on chat and expect them to NOT react.

[Klytania]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bgf5WIRY7c

The dude is fucking unhinged and nobody, let alone Yoshi P, should take him seriously.

Edit: He deleted the vod. Guess why.

Wouldn't call him unhinged. He was making objective points about how console is worse than PC and I'm guessing hes got a lot of console players that watch him, and he got irritated by them not understanding his point.

Though I will say he gets baited really easily.

[KageTokage]

He does have anger issues but his chat also has a lot of genuinely stupid people and trolls he tends to zero in on over the ones that actually make sense.

Arguing with Twtich chat is something you're just kinda...better off not doing sometimes, particularly with a large viewerbase.

[Klytania]

He does have anger issues but his chat also has a lot of genuinely stupid people and trolls he tends to zero in on over the ones that actually make sense.

Arguing with Twtich chat is something you're just kinda...better off not doing sometimes, particularly with a large viewerbase.

I can empathize. I can remember when I was younger just not knowing when to walk away from internet arguments because someone was either legitimately dim, or they were messing with me to get a reaction.

You would think Pyro being internet famous, would have somewhat mastered such a skill by now.

Nobody who is a serious person should want Pyro banned for this. This is a an actual person having actual interactions. FFXIV has this weird almost cultish toxic façade of niceness that is really weird. People do not act super wholesome and nice all the time. I would even argue it's not healthy.

[DreadCrow]

Wouldn't call him unhinged. He was making objective points about how console is worse than PC and I'm guessing hes got a lot of console players that watch him, and he got irritated by them not understanding his point.

Though I will say he gets baited really easily.

As a PC gamer (although not exclusively a PC gamer), I'll make the arrangement that if you make the argument that if you claim PC gaming is "objectively" better, you're automatically wrong, since when it comes to entertainment, even the "objective" is subjective. Dream Theater is "objectively" a better band than the Ramones but I sure as hell wouldn't want to listen to them.

[Batbrat]

That stream of him freaking out was second-hand embarrassing. Don't know this man, but up until now he seemed harmless. I remember some WoW freakout and I know the saying 'how you get em is how you lose em' but still I thought, well..maybe that tantrum about that other game was a one time thing. Well.

Its his behavior toward his audience thats clearly the problem. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you, then why talk about something like that at all? Did he think we're all some giant echo chamber? 'xiv community' this, that...we're all different people. We never agree on anything unanimously. Why would this be any different? Does he think we love streamers that much that we'll happily all agree that they should be able to do whatever they want with 0 regard for what yoshi or any of us even wants? Does he think he's our king or something? Who is he?? Ah, he's the one who had a temper tantrum on his way in and here he is seemingly having another one possibly on his way out. At a certain point, one has to stop and reflect on their outbursts and what truly causes them. In this case, I don't believe for a second that his reaction was all about the bannings. It was a power tripping freakout over people disagreeing with him. He couldnt handle it. He easily told long time subs to just go disappear. And he wants to make a career out of this?

Well. Maybe...streamers. I think now is not the time to force yourselves into positions of being persecuted martyrs. All you have to do is not show mods in your stream. That's all you have to do. No ones asking you for money, no ones doing anything to you. It wont hurt you, you wont die. Just dont put add-on overlays on your streams for a bit. I say dont do it all, but I know they'll truly pretend their entire lives are turned upside down-so just for now, give it some time maybe. You don't actually have to be a victim right now. You can opt out of becoming a victim via simply not streaming with mods on. or if you want to be a victim that badly then fine, I know the attention from it is appealing so I understand, but at the very least as you're lapping up every bit of sympathy you get for your blatant rule breaking, at least be kind to your viewers who are still feeding your ego via at least watching you. Alright. Don't be mean to them. That's cringe.

[Folsom]

After seeing his most recent stream, I couldn't care less if he gets banned for using mods (or anything else) because I'm not setting foot in his cesspit of a space again and will never know. He needs to see a professional about his anger issues.

[Cach]

That stream of him freaking out was second-hand embarrassing. Don't know this man, but up until now he seemed harmless.

Nah he has a story of flipping out and trying to erase evidence after, but he's small-time so no one cares that much. I tried to give the whole streamer thing a chance during the Endwalker frenzy, but nah, I pass. I flat out don't get it.

All this because of a pointless race to world first and pvp salt.

[Lihtleita]

would mass reporting someone still be acceptable if they were nicer?

[Folsom]

would mass reporting someone still be acceptable if they were nicer?

Mass reporting someone, so long as they actually broke a rule, is always technically acceptable, regardless of how nice they are. Few companies or other authorities in their right minds write a rule, note that it's only enforced via complaint, and then find legitimate complaints unacceptable, whether enmasse or singularly (though often it takes more than one complaint to trigger a reaction depending on the type of entity the complaint is made to). Whether they actually do anything will be based on their internal policy, but it's extremely unlikely (though not impossible!) that they'll consider the reporting unacceptable or harassment. On the other hand, they may note that it wasn't their intent, but we'll see (or not).