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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Their showing of it does mark them as being complicit in the use of 3rd party tools as a whole, yes. I can see that perspective.

    But there's a secondary issue here being presented. The use of Third party tools being tolerated on the level they are perhaps calming the more potentially vocal and influential elements of the base to pressuring the Developers to implement minor, but equally important quality of life improvements to the game. Again, I champion the idea of a chat bubble. But so long as 'people who don't talk about it' sate themselves with the 3rd party tool that provides it, the less we get an outpouring of support for it to actually be available in game for players.

    See, I keep going back and forth on this issue because of these many myriad factors, and I think that's why we revisit this conflict periodically. Well, that and competitive endeavors like Ultimates and PVP.
    There is no end to the potential harmless, cosmetic UI mods that other people can create for this game, and what SE themselves will have the time and resources to implement will not ever scratch the surface of what is out there.
    While some of it could or even should be in the base game, they will never get all of it in there. Not only are there multitudes more people who can create mods than SE could employ, but SE have to hold their features to a higher standard. I've seen so many mods that just bug out and cause hideous graphical glitches that the users seemingly don't care about. Even Pyro has some kind of countdown cosmetic that just creates a big black square over a players head.
    So using 'what is available as a mod' as justification for what 'should be in the base game' is never going to be a valid avenue. If it stands on it's own merits then it's worth pushing for, like chat bubbles, but at the same time, if it doesn't mesh with the games design and what the creators want for the game, it's not going to happen.

    There's also the entirely valid argument that the creators do not want to imitate WoW to much, and chat bubbles could fall into that.
    I've seen a lot of proposed UI changes over the last few days, and frankly, 90% of them are hideous recreations of WoW mods, which are a total mess.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 05-12-2022 at 02:11 AM.