Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

[Reap00]

He left it on screen for 30+ minutes at the end of Stormblood when using a plugin to change the games launch screen from stormblood to ShB.

The VoD is still there, does that mean Square Enix will be taking action?


The community is waiting.

Ban all your free advertisement.

DO IT.

P.s. This is a troll post, he should not get banned for changing a title screen or having a cleaner looking UI that does not affect gameplay or other people in any way. That is just stupid.

You should read the post by Yoshi P. It includes ALL 3rd pt tools. It isn't up to user discretion. Leaving evidence of violating this policy is idiocy incarnate.

[aveyond-dreams]

The post also mentions that even voicing support for these tools is considered a violation, by that standard a significant amount of people who sided with Hrothgar and Viera players using mods to fix the horrific state of the limited races will also come under fire. Zepla at one point made a comment to the effect of if modders can do it then so can SE, with such vagueness perhaps even that could be used to target her should this group choose to go after her.

It won't end with the angry guy you don't like, and given the string of disappointments from 6.1 I don't believe this game needs the bad press of banning its more prominent streamers over this, especially if it is due to a rogue group of individuals who believe they act in the name of justice. I imagine the people who bullied Scottzone off of social media entirely probably felt they were similarly justified. This community has serious issues when it comes to dealing with disagreements.

If you don't like the angry guy who shouts a lot then no one, literally no one is forcing you to interact with him. Have the maturity to walk away and pick your arguments wisely. If you don't like someone commenting about how they wish there was more raid content, do not form brigades much in the same way that is happening now in order to banish them from their streaming platforms/the actual game. Pyro could absolutely be more mature about the way he goes about things but the group acting like internet vigilantes is also in the wrong, and I would rather put up with Pyro who at least can tell me to my face what is going on in his mind than a bunch of people who go after others like it's a hobby, just waiting to ruin the game for me the minute I step out of line.

I've already dealt with a decent share of abuse from people who think that they are justified until suddenly they weren't the minute that a) Summoner became an actual Final Fantasy Summoner instead of a poison mage and b) when Male Viera were added and even the people who hurled the worst insults at me ended up making multiple alts because they were such a massive success with the playerbase. Now that it's happening all over again, I can see the similarities plain as day. I've been criticized multiple times by the people I argued against for not using my main character on the forums, or any other social media really, specifically because I know there are unpoliced segments of the community that would go out of their way to go after me for whatever reason takes their fancy, because goodness knows I have some opinions that are at odds with a lot of people.

[VillainQueen]

First I wanna point out that mass reporting does not give a ban automatically. GMs handle everything on case by case basis and it doesn't matter if 100 people report something, if there is no violation, nothing will happen.
In Pyromancers case however, there is a violation. It was said time and time again add-ons and mods are against ToS, everyone knew it and the community handled it always as like the fight club, don't talk about it, don't show it and you'll be fine. Now more and more people stream ffxiv and many of them came from a gaming community that handled it differently, they refuse to adapt on how this community has it. There was no silent agreement on it anymore, people were openly displaying it and they knew the risk.
In the end it doesn't matter if it's only a QoL add-on or not, if they display it openly, it is what it is. And if SE doesn't stand firm by it's rules they would mean nothing and no one wants that either.

The Jp community uses the playstation much more than NA and EU does and especially now with the race to world first many felt disadvantaged because some players with add-ons do have an advantage. And they are right to feel this way to some extend. It's natural that they feel like SE has to be hold those who openly display them accountable, even if they do it out of spite, the jp community isn't totally in the wrong here for reporting. Even though I feel like it's the wrong way to open this conversation.

And a few words about pyromancer. This dude has issues and tbh if he get's banned I would not feel bad about it. He not only rages at his own chat, which is given some, if not all the time is bait, no if he f's up in a duty he insults his teammates and he once called a fellow WoW content creator a b*tch, because of a misunderstanding. This guy is not a good person and while I would not go out of my way to report him, I feel like the community would have not lost something if he is gone. I doubt other channels like Preach or Zepla would get in trouble as they are more reasonable and positive as an influence.

[Darkstride]

I even think I heard him call his chat "Dumbasses who pay my bills," but I may have misheard.

What he said was that he didn't want people in his chat who aren't even subscribed to treat him like they are paying his bills. Then people started giving him shit about talking down to non-subs. So that just made him even more defensive. But that's not what he was saying. He was trying to say "don't come on my stream and try to tell me what to do like you pay my bills", when those same people aren't even subscribed to his channel.

I saw that portion of the stream and did he overreact? Yes, absolutely. Also, Twitch chat really likes to push peoples' buttons and act ridiculous (generally speaking) and he wasn't having it. So I see both sides, although his rampage wasn't warranted. People in chat started mocking with "oh ban me" and trying to be cute, so he did.

As far as add-ons go with him, I always thought it was problematic (as far as risk) but I don't typically care what other people do if it has no direct effect on me. I liked watching his streams for the MSQ. In fairness, I genuinely don't know if he would have used addons if he hadn't been given the impression by the community that is was ok as long as you use them responsibly (not harassing others, etc).

[Aelin_Ashryver]

What he said was that he didn't want people in his chat who aren't even subscribed to treat him like they are paying his bills. Then people started giving him shit about talking down to non-subs. So that just made him even more defensive. But that's not what he was saying. He was trying to say "don't come on my stream and try to tell me what to do like you pay my bills", when those same people aren't even subscribed to his channel.

Pyro literally called his own subs 'the dumbasses who pay his bills'. I was also in the stream live as he was on this rant. He said they (his subs) were mad they can't control him because they pay his bills and just insulted his entire sub base in the process of mocking some randos. He did also have a go at the people who were not subbed as well, more or less implying if ur not subbed you are worthless to him (which he tried to back pedal on). The whole time he was losing his shit at a few trolls and then lashing out at the people who were calmly and rationally disagreeing with him, banned them and insulted them and after ALL THAT he says but guys I am not saying you HAVE to agree with me. Sounds like bull when you go on a ban spree of anyone who says anything that is anything but an agreement with you.

It was the first time I had popped into his stream for ages since I didn't like how nasty he would get to his chat the other times I watched him. Someone would say something he didn't agree with and he would either explode or just get really nasty and insulting. I would be sitting there uncomfortable wondering why the f this dude was losing his mind at people who were really not trying to upset him at all. Feels bad to see perfectly nice people getting treated like dirt because he has anger management issues. People like me who don't like the aggro nature of his streams leave like he told us to and the ones who are left can tolerate it or are specifically there to be amused by his rage. And the more he blows up the worse it will get for him, he is just gonna be their amusement and they will never stop trying to push his buttons and he will continue to take his anger out on the wrong people.

The dude demands respect, demands people understand his PoV and won't actually calm down enough to actually discuss the topic with his chat. Don't bring up the subject if you are incapable of holding a discussion on the matter. Ragequitting the stream like a child ain't a good look. Though given how tilted he was, to be fair it was probably his best course of action to just walk away.

[Aikaal]

Can't we alll just be friends? Don't make the birds sad.

[Deslyxic]

Pyromancer hid the vod and then copyright claimed a clip that someone uploaded to YT.
I saw it and let me tell you, this isn't SE or the community's fault, he brought this upon himself, chat was trying to warn him but he started throwing a tantrum, insulting people and even banning some. He claimed that didn't matter that console players can't use mods because he couldn't fathom that people could clear high-end content playing on console.

[Darkpaw]

Kind of funny, it’s okay to make fun and cancel a man who is on medication for anger problems he has admitted to and been pretty open about.

All because he has anger issues? So what if he had one of the “cool mental disorders” you all would take up for him? The man has said before he needs his medication and has anger issues that he struggles with and is trying to work on.

There was no reason to witch hunt ban him, UI mods are bloody harmless. Sure I don't always agree with the man especially his take on console players given I’ve been one since day one in this game. But I’m not going to seek to ban someone because he doesn't agree with me. Some of yall need to go outside and touch anything or you need a come to Jesus moment or somethin…

The amount of people saying “what a toxic piece of trash he shouldnt be streaming with a temper like that.” Man with mental health concerns cant follow his passion?

Maybe you all shouldn’t be allowed to speak without empathy.

[VillainQueen]

Kind of funny, it’s okay to make fun and cancel a man who is on medication for anger problems he has admitted to and been pretty open about.

All because he has anger issues? So what if he had one of the “cool mental disorders” you all would take up for him? The man has said before he needs his medication and has anger issues that he struggles with and is trying to work on.

There was no reason to witch hunt ban him, UI mods are bloody harmless. Sure I don't always agree with the man especially his take on console players given I’ve been one since day one in this game. But I’m not going to seek to ban someone because he doesn't agree with me. Some of yall need to go outside and touch anything or you need a come to Jesus moment or somethin…

The amount of people saying “what a toxic piece of trash he shouldnt be streaming with a temper like that.” Man with mental health concerns cant follow his passion?

Maybe you all shouldn’t be allowed to speak without empathy.

Mental health issues are not an excuse to abuse other people.

[Darkpaw]

Really? So those with problems should hide their problems, never speak openly about them, never slip up and be perfect all the time no matter the pressure they are put in?

Never make a mistake again. Just because you dont like someone, doesn’t give you the right to judge them. You don’t know what they go through.

I hope you remember that and I hope when you make a mistake, or when you slip up, someone isn’t so quick to judge you for your mistakes, and your slip ups and instead sees you as the person you are.