Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

[dapperfaffer]

You’re in luck; someone made a supercut of the vod

https://youtu.be/78T92RoivZc

the nintendo snaps are spicey

[Darkstride]

Correct, but did Pyromancer essentially NOT apologize for having mods, or did he own up and say it was his mistake and take them down?

Pyromancer did not apologize for having mods, but he did disable and stop using them all. He said on his stream that while he thinks simple UI mods and addons should be allowed, he understands that they aren't and will not be risking anything by using them going forward. There were some chat comments still trying to linger in a gray area like having ACT run in the background where you can't see it, but Pyro disregarded it and said he won't be using anything at all.

[QT_Melon]

Pyromancer did not apologize for having mods, but he did disable and stop using them all. He said on his stream that while he thinks simple UI mods and addons should be allowed, he understands that they aren't and will not be risking anything by using them going forward. There were some chat comments still trying to linger in a gray area like having ACT run in the background where you can't see it, but Pyro disregarded it and said he won't be using anything at all.

Yeah kinda figured since Pyro was from WoW. Not a knock against WoW players, it's more from understanding that many people in other games/countries are used to having Add-Ons and it's not a big deal.

I get why people will try to defend due to multiple things.


1. Likeable Streamer. Despite his temper he's likeable. The more likeable, naturally people will feel they have to defend.
2. Presumption of "Evil" due to being a company. It's EXTREMELY EASY to make SE as a company out to be the bad guy. I mean, see how many people are following another likeable streamer's bad faith argument using the Discord example. I mean yeah okay going with the "They CAN" doesn't mean they "WILL" or even "WANT TO". There's a certain hands off hear no evil, see no evil. They still want your dollars. It's just really hard to stretch this for the sake of "victimization" that SE is just over there wanting to get rid of anyone for any reason due to a vague TOS. They still have a business to run.
3. Rebellion of authority, I mean it's just basically the same as 2. People just don't like authority in general whether it's company or otherwise. "You can't tell me what to do"

I'm not a big fan of everything SE does, I do love the game but I'm not playing it as frequently as I used to because you know health and all that. I think people look at the loud vocal community and instead of a "ahh yeah my bad, didn't get the hint, I'll keep it on the down low" it's more of how they're a victim. Community IS great, but there are groups that are just vocal and can get really ugly - regardless if you agree with them or not. They're not the whole of the population of players though.

Does that mean however, there aren't valid points about the UI? Dude this game is pretty damn OLD now so of COURSE it needs UI overhaul. JP UIs aren't always the best. Sad it came this way but people with add ons aren't entirely wrong either. That doesn't mean they're a victim though.


But not gonna lie this playing victim over all this is playing ignorant. There's that phrase "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". I just can't believe people especially major streamers for the world's first didn't think it wouldn't eventually happen.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Afcter the way he belittle console players and stating how he hates the FFXIV community he can go back to WoW and never show his face ever again. You want to disrespect your chat and followers is like putting yourself to death. Those people are the ones who give you your lively hood to sit around and play games. IF not for the supporters he would be a nobody working a normal job. He needs to learn some humility and a face slap of reality

[Darkstride]

stating how he hates the FFXIV community

This is not defense of how he acted or handled the situation, but when did he state that he hates the FFXIV community? He definitely blasted his chat, but I don't recall hearing him say that he hates the XIV community.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

there is a video on Work 2 game I will post the link. It is towards the end of the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvPd...ngerJRPGGaming and now Pyromancer is issuing strikes of his video. So apparently the cat is out of the bag and now he has to face the consequences

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFVq...el=GingerPrime here is the video without as much comment

[Sky_Sumisu]

Something I began saying more and more recently:
Is it really relevant that yours is a troll post, when a lot of people agree with it unironically?

Which is sad.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

And lastly, before anyone decides to claim they need ACT for whatever reason, you don't. You really don't. All of the defenses for it (with the exception of self-improvement) is questionable at best. SE even created this weird place that has been around since Heavensward (I think?) called Stone, Sea and Sky. Y'know. The place where you can go and practice against a target that performs some of the mechanics in the fight, while also seeing if you can reach enough personal DPS to pass.

SSS as it is, is very deserted & ineffective once you start touching jobs whose contributions aren’t solely coming from their own raw power. Namingly DNC, BRD, all healers and tanks. If they want to encourage players to use SSS then they have a lot homework to rehaul and improve its feature.

SSS is a solo duty. rDPS reliant jobs like DNCs cannot receive esprit from a non-existent partner & buff an empty air: that’s essentially good amount of missed Saber Dances & their partner buff. Same with BRDs have no parties to buff with their perpetual songs. And yet they dominate the high end contents participation number together for obvious reasons while leaving MCH’s at very abysmal rate amongst the physical ranged roster.

SSS is a dummy. They deal 0 damage. They let out 0 mechanic, unlike what you’ve wrote. This means the aspect of tank’s and healers’ cooldown planning are essentially axed, which in real practice is just as important as their personal damage contributions. No mechanics means even DPSes don’t get to be tested whether they can keep their rotations going at the face of on-going mechanic. Tanks still have their own simple rotation. But healers’ are basically gimped to a ”Can I spam this same button 3 minutes straight without falling asleep?”-challenge.

All these only contributes to myself believing that they clearly did not put much thought into implementing this feature and instead it only acts as ”Hey, at least we did something, okay?”-defense to players who dislike SSS for valid reasons.

[JanVanding]

Fun fact.

This thread breaks the Witch hunting and harassment rules.

Pyromancer didn't help himself, he did behave like a bit of a spoiled manbaby, but honestly, the fact this thread straight out breaks name and shame policy and is people dog piling a single person in the hopes of getting that person banned?

Applause

Well done community, you've fallen so very far, very fast.


Best community? You're well on your way to Lost Ark tier at this rate.