HOW ABOUT

[Stasya]

Enough backlash will make them change their stance on things. Especially if the reduction in streamers leads to a reduction in player count...something that always goes hand in hand.

SE white knights simply do not care. Devs literally in LL with grins imply "w/e use act but if you harras person over it we 100% ban". Can you imagine, you play game and bigger font cooldowns is harassing lunatics on 5ch/NA that abuse mass reports and lie in them?
For SE white knights it's useless to report bots because they can't gloat about ban, they just want to see people suffer on stream.... (and if se ban more bots/rmt how se white knights will buy more gil?)
Yoshi P himself uses act like program. I do wonder if banned people had UI mod that Yoshi probably uses himself aswell ....

[Grebeny]

SE white knights simply do not care. Devs literally in LL with grins imply "w/e use act but if you harras person over it we 100% ban". Can you imagine, you play game and bigger font cooldowns is harassing lunatics on 5ch/NA that abuse mass reports and lie in them?
For SE white knights it's useless to report bots because they can't gloat about ban, they just want to see people suffer on stream.... (and if se ban more bots/rmt how se white knights will buy more gil?)
Yoshi P himself uses act like program. I do wonder if banned people had UI mod that Yoshi probably uses himself aswell ....

Devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6...hannel=blluist
2:10 Our official stance is third party tools will always be "no", even if it is basic function tools our anwser is please don't use them. If in future we decide to suspend all accounts using them, please be aware it is on you're own risk.
5:49 He explain that using calculated DPS data to harass people is before the the none third party agreement (meaning it will have heavier impact on your account)
The gray area argument is not valid at all, because they were talking more about "what is third party tool". Because as it happened, players are like "is my windows clock third party" and it is pretty gray area to explain what exactly it is or it is not. ACT was called Third party tool and they told 5 times "do not use it" when devs told you to use it exactly?

[Shougun]

Bots in the Eureka related content is a bit frustrating sometimes because it can boost the difficulty of the area on tasks you're not interested in, though other times they might help auto pilot do tasks for you lol. Maybe if they can muster the server resources to allow players to initiate their own instance they'll also add blue mage, I feel that could be pretty wild / fun.

[Skiros]

Devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6...hannel=blluist
2:10 Our official stance is third party tools will always be "no", even if it is basic function tools our anwser is please don't use them. If in future we decide to suspend all accounts using them, please be aware it is on you're own risk.
5:49 He explain that using calculated DPS data to harass people is before the the none third party agreement (meaning it will have heavier impact on your account)
The gray area argument is not valid at all, because they were talking more about "what is third party tool". Because as it happened, players are like "is my windows clock third party" and it is pretty gray area to explain what exactly it is or it is not. ACT was called Third party tool and they told 5 times "do not use it" when devs told you to use it exactly?

Ok but would you hunt down a serial killer before someone jaywalking?

Why are they hunting down people using orchestrion mods over long-time botters?

[Skiros]

Seems like this is relevant again now that people are starting to witch hunt 18+ modders doing their own thing in their virtual bedrooms.

[Kaurhz]

Imagine that...

No, no, don't ban UI mods or third-party tools because they have no inherent detriment on the game beyond people skills.

Proceeds to point stick in direction of something that is an entirely consensual agreement between two parties behind private doors -- and needs I might add people doing it publicly already do get warnings and suspensions. Whilst subsequently ignore aspects of cheating, hacking and modding that have arguably impacted the game in more ways than any of these could hope to achieve.

[Droxybrobotnik]

I report all bots I come across.
I dunno why you're trying to compare one type of cheating to another.

You know, a lot of peopl responded to you with some reasonable answers you might have thought of.
I don't see what's so "king" about you. You just seem like a guy with forum opinions who thinks he's cool.

[Raoabolic]

Ok but would you hunt down a serial killer before someone jaywalking?

Why are they hunting down people using orchestrion mods over long-time botters?

It's called low hanging fruit. You can see it in any job. Why bother putting more effort than you need to do to keep your job? Do just enough work to keep your job and keep your customers happy. See, in Lost Ar

[Saimeren]

Why is no one talking about them LOL?

Because they make Square a butt load of money.. They'll never be banned as long as they're paying subs, expansions, and level/story skip fees.

[Anhra]

How about removing Titanmen from the forums?

In order to combat the Bots, you must become the Bot.