Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
It is pretty clear what they mean. Third party tool is something that interacts with the game in a way. Changing files, packages, collecting online data and so on. There is no need for Square enix to explain you that, go to any IT in the world and ask them what third party tool attached to another tool is and they will tell you, your claim "it is not clear if discord is third party tool or not", they will just laugh at you.

ACT is not covered by the harrasment, but by the no third party agreement. Yoshida claimed they can't catch you if you are using one, but they will ban you if you try to use ACT to harass people, interviews are not ToS, they are just a conversation, do you understand the difference?

This is really bad argument. First at all, not all of the mods that were on the banned streamers were "quality of life", if I have "aura" around enemy players in a shooter even when they are behind wall, it is just UI, do you still call it quality of life or cheating? Square enix told that they will look into it and decide what to add, that does not mean they will add the exact modification the streamers were banned for. Even if they do so, if they decided this is giving the players advantage at this point of time, at this point of time when the ban is taking place, those people have advantage above the players without the mod, even if it is added to the game later on, it is still cheating at the moment when it is used.
From the ToS themselves it's not clear what they mean, nor should it be. This obviously bad faith argument about discord is trying to get people to not just look to the ToS for is written but what is meant.
ACT is absolutely adressed through the rules against harassment, not by what's written in the ToS but by how they are applied. It just takes someone to use it responsibily to never get punished for it. And that's the point, fairly obvious in that famous live letter where yoship talked about ACT and parsers in more debt. Interviews that contain clarification are arguably more important than what's written because they can go more indepth at what the ToS actually mean to achieve.

Lastly the people being banned right now are not getting banned for pvp cheats. They're just banning random pve streamers that got into the crosshair of malicous forums. This is just a performative action, it will not adress anything. PVP cheaters will continue to go unadressed because they're not streaming, gathering bots will continue to go unadressed because they are also not streaming. I agree that pvp cheaters and bots are a problem but if you think the current handling of the ToS by SE will but a stop to that then you are unrealistically optimistic and I have a bridge in brooklyn to sell to you.