Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content. Discord?

[Gemina]

Asmongold says discord is a "separate party tool," not a third party because it does not interact with the game files

Asmongold is not an employee of SE, nor does he represent any of their affiliates.

This is the most accurate post I have read in regards to discord...

Is this a personal opinion, because i see nowhere where discord is clarified as a usable 3rd party tool by an official square enix representative.

People can say what they want, but until square enix fronts up and lists what is and is not a tool, then everything is considered against ToS.

@segacious. No matter how you want to look at it, Discord is not supported by SE, and console players don't have access to it. Can you be disciplined for using it? Technically, yes you can. Will you be? No, it is extremely unlikely anyone will even be warned for just using Discord. Be that is it may, this isn't as ambiguous as people would like to make it out to be. If the shout outs in discord to tell you where to go makes you feel like it made the content easier, that more likely has to do with just doing what you were told instead of actually understanding the mechanics so you don't need to be. If you don't want to feel that way, then don't use Discord for shout outs.

[Brynne]

@segacious. No matter how you want to look at it, Discord is not supported by SE, and console players don't have access to it.

Eh, that's a stretch. Console players can use their phones, or a laptop, to voice chat on Discord all they want. Only very special cases would not have access to discord if they wanted to use it. In any case, PC players don't have access to PS4's native voice chat and it's not supported by SE, so by the same logic it should also be against TOS. But I don't think it is. I also don't think discord is. SE would have to be mad to say "no voice chatting with your friends while you play".

[Gemina]

Eh, that's a stretch. Console players can use their phones, or a laptop, to voice chat on Discord all they want. Only very special cases would not have access to discord if they wanted to use it. In any case, PC players don't have access to PS4's native voice chat and it's not supported by SE, so by the same logic it should also be against TOS. But I don't think it is. I also don't think discord is. SE would have to be mad to say "no voice chatting with your friends while you play".

I know they can use their laptops and/or phones. It doesn't change that the console itself does not have access to discord. You have to use another device on top of the USB controller and Keyboard. Ever have to use 3-4 remote controllers to use a TV? It's kind of like that. Plus, like I pointed out to Segacious, I was disappointed that players just wanted to tell me where to go instead of actually explain how the mechanic works. I figured it would be more convenient considering you don't have to type up a wall of text. Nah. I was totally wrong about that.

Anywho, the thing about your argument where you say, "SE would have to mad to say no voice chatting with your friends", is that players are interpreting Yoshi's statements as exactly that. It is very similar to what we what just went through with the Adventure Plates, and players are asking to be more clear about what is and isn't allowed. Anyone with a firm head on their shoulders will know that the answer to this is far too broad. All they can really do is define for their customers what a third party tool is. And now you get players mockingly saying, "Is THIS a third party tool?" "What about THAT SE, am I going to get banned for THIS?" It makes this person sound like a third grader, looking for loopholes in the regulations and the enforcer's logic.