Use of tools that allow players to more easily complete content. Discord?

[MintnHoney]

Wait a moment.
Is the steam overlay a 3rd party tool?
Does that mean that steam users are inherently in danger of rules being broken?
And we still can't switch to PC to avoid this heresy?
*wheezing*

/s

[Neoyoshi]

I'm sorry, but you may as well throw the windows operating system in there while you are at it with this train of thought.

[Bunnycake]

I'm sorry, but you may as well throw the windows operating system in there while you are at it with this train of thought.

Welp, time to install Linux...oh wait someone made a thread asking if using Linux is third party lol

[NanaWiloh]

People need to stop being balantly obtuse. We all know what kind of programs SE means we dont need a list.

[EagleDynamics]

People need to stop being balantly obtuse. We all know what kind of programs SE means we dont need a list.

i dont know about that. the japanese streamer that got banned was using harmless mods

[Risvertasashi]

Unfortunately, there's a lot of misinformation in this thread. Go look up Yoshi P's talk from 2 years ago.

Even using excel or discord could be seen as third party tool use - in that previous speech, Yoshi uses both Discord and Excel as examples by name. So, yes, SE could ban you for it. Obviously, it would be ridiculous for them to do so, but the TOS is worded such that even those cross the line.

And, personally, I think this policy is stupid and plenty of other devs manage to outline what's acceptable and what's not, so it's not nearly as impossible as Yoshi keeps saying. But they'd rather have a blanket ban on everything, and leave us guessing on what exactly they won't enforce and occasionally change the enforcement as in the last day or two.

Asmongold says discord is a "separate party tool," not a third party because it does not interact with the game files

Asmongold does not speak officially for the development team/square enix. Yoshida does.

[DreadCrow]

And, personally, I think this policy is stupid and plenty of other devs manage to outline what's acceptable and what's not, so it's not nearly as impossible as Yoshi keeps saying. But they'd rather have a blanket ban on everything, and leave us guessing on what exactly they won't enforce and occasionally change the enforcement as in the last day or two.

As long as console players make up a major part of Final Fantasy XIV's player base, officially, every sort of third-party tool or add-on will be against TOS. Unofficially, I highly doubt SE cares all that much unless you're doing some obvious cheating or openly streaming it. That's should be common sense... But it feel like this whole "debate" has shown me that people don't have common sense.

[Droxybrobotnik]

Discord doesn't interact with or modify the game. The rest you should be able to work out.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Discord doesn't interact with or modify the game. The rest you should be able to work out.

I'm just assuming this is all a giant bait thread, if anyone unironically thinks Discord is an illegal program despite the fact what you said.....well....there's bigger problems.