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    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    Just give us a list of what addons we can use.

    Cause I hear Gshade is okay. But that is still 3rd part.

    And while we joke about the discord thing, that is a legit TOS breaker.

    So we need a list of what is okay.
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    While we're at it, isn't Playstation Network 3rd party too? It has multiple functions that directly interfere with the game, friendlist, calls...
    In all seriousness the crusade some people started with the mass reporting streamers goes too far, they are seriously harming people and this is full on malicious intend.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 05-11-2022 at 08:59 AM.

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    How about we focus on fixing the game...I know crazy idea right!
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    No, gshade is also against the ToS. So short answer, none. No addons are allowed. None are okay. Not a single mod or plugin.

    Long answer, if it doesn't affect others in their gameplay like scripts that allow you to cheat in pvp and harassment of players with damage meters and all that it is TOLERATED BUT STILL NOT ALLOWED and you use it AT YOUR OWN RISK. They won't murder their whole playerbase, cause everyone nowdays is using some sort of mod or plugin, cause that would deal a huge blow to the stock and shareholders hate that and thus the company cause losing money is not what a company really likes. But only cause certain stuff is generally tolerated, IF YOU DON'T JUST GO TO TOWN WITH IT, doesn't mean they can't just decide to swing the banhammer to smite you. The streamer that set this hell lose we find ourselves in atm got too confident and was streaming with their damage meter tool VISIBLE ON THEIR STREAM WHILE THIS IS NOT NECESSARY.

    There is also a difference between things that run outside of the game, like discord does. Discord has, if used right, no direct interaction with the game. Same as every other voicechat software. I mean SE isn't sending you to gaol cause you have youtube open or your browser, or cause you run your operating system besides the game. Tho if you run the Edge browser you definitely deserve gaol time.

    So no, we need no list cause there won't be a list cause everything that interacts with the game itself and the data in and from it is a offense. It is not that hard to understand. If it interacts in any way with the data of the game, modifies gamefiles or reads data from the game to display something it is against the ToS. If a voicechat runs AS A SEPARATE SOFTWARE THAT DOESN'T INTERACT WITH ANY OF FFXIV DATA then it is allowed. Overlays ofc are again a modification of some sorts so not allowed but you can deactivate discord overlays easily.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 05-11-2022 at 09:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    No, gshade is also against the ToS.
    YoshiP stated otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    YoshiP stated otherwise.
    Years ago, yeah. An update would be nice after the announcement yesterday.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    YoshiP stated otherwise.
    He's said a lot of things....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    They can't. They'd lose so much business so fast, and not just from NA or EU. JP, in particular, would go catatonic over the loss of housing addons.
    Sounds like their problem then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    YoshiP stated otherwise.
    Yeah well i know of one statement of a community representative, Hvinire said it would be alright i think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    Utilizing such a tool would not violate any agreements customers have with Square Enix, and we don't plan on doing anything to restrict users from accessing it.

    However, we advise that players use this at their own risk. Square Enix does not regulate the content of the aforementioned add-on and will not be responsible for any damage or losses resulting from its use.
    There we go. Yeah that seems to be a problem since it is not clarified anywhere that these are alright. Which makes it really...well...unsafe cause they can decide without giving any notice that it's now not allowed anymore.

    But yeah, reshade and gshade don't interact with the gamedata itself i believe but work through directx itself. Thus it doesn't interact with the gamedata itself BUT gshade as far as i know uses an overlay system for the game which would mean it does interact with gamedata since it starts automatically as soon as the game starts. Which would be a modification of the installation folder which would be, i say probably cause we don't know how SE sees this, probably a violation. But yeah that is speculation, we don't know it and it would be nice to get some fresh statements from the dev team/SE.
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    Technically none. No TexTools, QuickLauncher, nor GShade as they fall into the categories of affecting the game files and manipulating the files which breaks CoC.
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