Why not a warning?

[Xiu_Ye]

Do people really think a 10 day ban after years of calling things grey areas and 'just don't harass people' is an appropriate response? Don't come in saying "THEY HAVE THE RIGHT", no one cares or argues they are within their rights. I'm not even saying "let them have the tools still..." I'm simply saying that pulling them to gaol, warning them, and then letting them go when they remove the offending material, accomplishes the same effect without making half the userbase angry that people are being pulled mid-prog for sudden 10-day bans.

Please dont reply with no thought comments. Actually think about the question I'm presenting and give real reasons why a ban is better than a warning in this scenario with the context of how things have been treated.

"Its against the rules no sympathy" posts miss the point entirely.

[Raoabolic]

What do you MEAN humans are hypocritical?! I thought we lived in a society!

Seriously though, why stream something that's "in a grey area" when all it will take is a few humans to shut you down? It does stink it happened but what did you expect in this day and age, lol.

[Kolsykol]

Because a warning doesn't send the same message.
If people know they'll only get a warning they'll keep using it until they get the warning.

[Vahlnir]

Because a warning doesn't send the same message.
If people know they'll only get a warning they'll keep using it until they get the warning.

Right now, I think that SE is just trying to send a message by making an example out of some players.

[Atelier-Bagur]

1. You knew the risks when going against ToS with addons and very stupidly making it publicly known that you are using said addons via recordings, streams etc
2. "Oh look at that, the consequences of my actions"

[Xiu_Ye]

1. You knew the risks when going against ToS with addons and very stupidly making it publicly known that you are using said addons via recordings, streams etc
2. "Oh look at that, the consequences of my actions"

Wow someone who didn't manage to read the entire post.

[Ketsufuma]

Do people really think a 10 day ban after years of calling things grey areas and 'just don't harass people' is an appropriate response? Don't come in saying "THEY HAVE THE RIGHT", no one cares or argues they are within their rights. I'm not even saying "let them have the tools still..." I'm simply saying that pulling them to gaol, warning them, and then letting them go when they remove the offending material, accomplishes the same effect without making half the userbase angry that people are being pulled mid-prog for sudden 10-day bans.

Please dont reply with no thought comments. Actually think about the question I'm presenting and give real reasons why a ban is better than a warning in this scenario with the context of how things have been treated.

"Its against the rules no sympathy" posts miss the point entirely.

Remember that we have been warned not 2 but 3 times by yoshi p about addons and or mods. We take that risk if we choose to use them sadly. Ya it does indeed suck that they would pull you to jail and give you the 10 day suspension right away. but you cant say we were not warned or deserve a strike system at this point.

im not saying its just but they are doing what they think is the right thing to do at this point.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Wow someone who didn't manage to read the entire post.

I did and what Im saying basically applies to what you posted. If you knew what you are doing is risky, why pull a surprise pikachu face when you get caught?

[Xiu_Ye]

Remember that we have been warned not 2 but 3 times by yoshi p about addons and or mods. We take that risk if we choose to use them sadly. Ya it does indeed suck that they would pull you to jail and give you the 10 day suspension right away. but you cant say we were not warned or deserve a strike system at this point.

im not saying its just but they are doing what they think is the right thing to do at this point.

I don't agree with this takeaway on things like ACT. I'll not fight on UI mods currently (though I think banning someone for using a feature you plan to implement is wrong in a different way). I think that SE specifically made statements alluding to it being basically ok to use as long as you don't harass people. Especially when ACT has been on streams, vods, youtube, for years now with basically no enforcement. Also keep in mind my point that 99% of players would disable things with a simple warning. So what is gained by banning instead? And yes, even warning other large players would get the word around just as well.

[Xiu_Ye]

I did and what Im saying basically applies to what you posted. If you knew what you are doing is risky, why pull a surprise pikachu face when you get caught?

You're still missing the point. My question is what is gained from banning over in-game warning? I specifically said it's in their rights.