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    FF14 Twitch numbers suck for a reason

    Square Enix while I understand enforcing a policy acting on the obvious mass reporting with no investigation is extremely bad PR.

    This will further kill the category on Twitch as it is obvious streamers are being targeted. Constantly stepping around this issue and not making a list of approved addons and unapproved ones is causing a large amount of confusing in your community.

    Most of us are adults so please treat us as such by making a specific list.
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    Last edited by Puremallace; 05-11-2022 at 12:29 AM.

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    .... Twitch numbers are probably low because of spoilers.
    I also think Twitch culture is very different than in FFXIV, Twitch is generally speaking full of extremely immature and toxic people which I think turns away a lot of FFXIV players.
    It's more in line with MOBA's and FPS in that regard.

    The notion that this has anything to do with Addons I tbh find to be quite absurd and I see people using ACT all the time.
    They just don't based on what I've seen at least use Addons that are blatant cheating.
    People have been using ACT for parsing on Stream since forever and haven't gotten in trouble for it unless they've been shitty towards people ingame because of it.
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    Twitch numbers suck because it's an MMO, and because the games population plays the game, not watches people streaming it.


    The only streams I've watched are my friends during prog.
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    The game isn't very entertaining to watch, on top of that, FFXIV content creators, generally, aren't very entertaining.
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    The FFXIV streamers I watch for entertainment aren't using mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Twitch numbers suck because it's an MMO, and because the games population plays the game, not watches people streaming it.


    The only streams I've watched are my friends during prog.
    That too tbh, I don't particularly enjoying watching MMO's for the gameplay I enjoy it because of the people streaming them.
    Asmongold also just super carries whatever MMO ( or game in general ) he plays on Stream, those numbers don't really say much at all about how successful a game is.
    It's moreso that Streamers tend to be attracted to popular games because of the potential audience rather than Streamers making games popular ( in most cases ).

    The only Streamer I actually watch for the gameplay too is Maximilliandood when he plays fighting games or Turin on Youtube for RTS especially his Warhammer tournaments, becaues fighting games and RTS are fun to watch.
    I don't rly enjoy watching any other genre.

    Edit: There actually is an exception in FFXIV and that's Mikepreachwow when he has funny interactions with his FC, his FC is really incredible and add a lot to this Streams.
    But you can also watch that on Youtube in clips.
    But the theatre re-telling of his ARR journey was hilarious to watch live.
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    The problem with a specific list is when you get banned for a reason that falls outside the scope of the list, that would still constitute an infraction otherwise, then people will only complain and moan that they still got banned for no reason, and that the reason they were banned fell outside that particular list. -- In a sense, they would be following the list, not the terms of service. Edit: They should only serve as examples and not an inexhaustible list.

    The only thing they need to do is exercise more in the way of wording. e.g. "Third-party tools that interact with or modify in-game assets, resources or memory are strictly prohibited.!

    Further, I feel like an issue such as a UI mod should not fall under an immediate ban or suspension, but should instead fall under a warning (minor infraction).
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 05-11-2022 at 12:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The game isn't very entertaining to watch, and on top of that, FFXIV content creators, generally, aren't very entertaining.
    This is your core issue.

    Also the game being story driven means that alot of people don't want to be spoiled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    This is your core issue.

    Also the game being story driven means that alot of people don't want to be spoiled.
    A lot of Streamers will even avoid the MSQ on patch day because of this, because they know their viewership will be lower.
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    Why do people consider Twitch numbers important? Not every game is interesting when you're only a spectator and FFXIV isn't designed to be an eSport.
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